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Re: Acme Weather

#41
post #14

Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.

Has EU weather sources per credits (DWD, ECMWF, EUMETSAT -- roughly what it's doing is graphing multiple models), but if you are into weather apps you're likely best off with Carrot that (a) lets you design your own UI including matching this (more or less), and (b) lets you choose among weather sources and flip among them with a tap.

If it's about cute UI and key notifications, try Hello Weather. For microcell notifications on anything, Tomorrow weather. For much better maps, WeatherMap.

For comparing multiple models, try Windy.app. For coastal barrier island use, I have 8 graphed at once, most of them EU models.

Very little reason for any weather app beyond Carrot, though Apple Weather is surprising evolved from the app of 20 years ago, no longer the 4th app to replace after messaging, maps, and browser).

Carrot is the only weather app with a vicious weather control AI singing an entire Broadway concept album about your destruction at you though.

Re: Acme Weather

#42
We don't care about a Weather app. Very easy to do and there are millions of it. What is missing is good freely accessible data /api for weather info.

Most free one are disappearing and frustratingly in most countries, the weather agency you pay with your tax will not provide it for you.

Re: Acme Weather

#43
I can't download it, as it appears to be US only. Based on the screenshots, without 'feels like' support throughout the forecast (not just for current conditions) it wouldn't be useful where I live.

Re: Acme Weather

#44
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your phone comes with a free weather app. There are thousands more free apps for folks who don’t mind ads. Weather requires ongoing costs. It’s always going to need to be maintained because meteorological models are evolving. Anything beyond a viewport will need to track and metabolize those changes.

> Weather requires ongoing costs. I strongly doubt that this company runs their own weather stations or meteorological models. Their only recurring cost is API access to the companies that provide weather data, a negligible amount of IT infrastructure, and their employees. Considering that there are many free weather APIs, and that a polished frontend can be built by a single person, what exactly are the overheads? T…

> strongly doubt that this company runs their own weather stations or meteorological models. Their only recurring cost is API access to the companies that provide weather data

No. But I'd suspect a tabula rasa approach to weather–particularly given it hasn't been rolled out globally in one go–incorporates satellite data, local measurements, et cetera.

Again, that may not take constant subscriprtion. But it does take constant expert monitoring and awareness.

> Considering that there are many free weather APIs

If you're a glorified viewport into these APIs' data, you may be able to stick with their most-static data and fire and forget. In reality, what those outputs mean change as the models and techniques evolve. There are new APIs with new data constantly coming out, and they're often adding connectors.

> a weather app shouldn't have large maintenance costs that couldn't be covered by a one-time payment

The only way I see this working is if the user is explicitly aware the app can break at any time if one of the APIs change anything, which they often do, and that this may not cause any obvious failures, just a decay in the app's accuracy or usefulness.

Re: Acme Weather

#46

How about reporting on yesterday's weather? Its hard to plan a walk in the forest today if I dont know how much it rained yesterday.

mentioned this elsewhere, but https://zoom.earth/ handles that ... (I've got nothing to do with them btw... I just think it's good)

Re: Acme Weather

#47
post #14

Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.

Why is that? I know that some US-based news websites choose the nuclear option of completely disabling access to EU-based users instead of complying with EU laws. But weather app? What problem do they have with supporting EU users?

Re: Acme Weather

#48
post #37
post #27

How are weather apps still relevant, let alone profitable enough to build a company around? This problem has been solved years ago. All the app needs to do is hook up to one or more data providers, and show some stats and pretty graphs. It's essentially a read-only frontend to an API. There are plenty of options to choose from on every platform, including not using an app at all. The features this ad promotes all see…

> Why do you collect any data?? There are like, billions of internet-connected barometers in the world that are not used in weather models. I don’t know if Acme has any of that in mind, but there is plenty of good reason for a weather app to collect data from phones. I know @counters may disagree with me, but I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones. A…

> I believe there are opportunities to improve short term forecast accuracy using data collected from phones.

Alright, fair point. That could be a reasonable use case.

But judging by their advertised "Community reports" feature, Acme doesn't seem to be doing this. And even if they did, this feature should be opt-in, and their privacy policy should only apply for those users.

> Also, pretty much every day, all the apps and all the sites will tell me the incorrect current conditions at my location, much less the forecast. It’s 2026 damnit. Why doesn’t my phone know what the weather is outside right now?

Have you tried looking out the window? What do you need hyper-local and minute-accurate forecasts for? If you need to know accurate current conditions get a thermometer and barometer. If you want it on your smartphone, then the app could show you live readings from your device, without sending the data anywhere.

Weather forecasts have always been an inexact science, and likely always will be. Our models have gotten better over time, and at this point I think that they're good enough. I only need to know the general temperature and likelihood of certain weather events a few days in advance, at most. If there's a chance of rain, I carry an umbrella just in case. If it's going to be cold, I pack a jacket.

Highly accurate weather prediction doesn't solve any practical problem for the average person. Hyping it up like it does only serves as marketing for companies that want to build a profitable business around it.

Re: Acme Weather

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, most of us are doing nothing to help people and are using grandiose language to describe reticulating splines. I don’t think that applies to good weather apps though, a lot of people do die because they are unaware of weather events. I would be very unsurprised to learn that any major weather app has directly saved lives. The U.S is a very… weatherful place.

People do die due to weather events. But attributing their death to bad weather apps is pretty wild.

I didn’t say that.

Re: Acme Weather

#50

Check out zoom.earth, found it recently. They have an app too. https://zoom.earth/ Apparently it's by https://neave.com/ who looks like an indy developer out of london (according to this: https://neave.com/legal/privacy/ ) Also check https://earth.nullschool.net/ by https://github.com/cambecc

Neave has been around forever they’re great
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