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Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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I have a 1.2TB cap before you start getting charged extra, so you might need to recalibrate your restrictive level.

Is that with a WISP by chance? Or in a developing country? Or are there really wired providers with such low caps in the western world in this day and age?

Comcast.

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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ModelScope is the Chinese equivalent of Hugging Face and a good back up. All the open models are Chinese anyways

Not true! Mistral is really really good, but I agree that there isn't a single decent open model from the USA.

To be fair there are lots of worse models than OpenAI's GPT-OSS-120b. It's not a standout when positioned next to the latest releases from China, but prior to the current wave it was considered one of the stronger local models you can reasonably run.

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Can anyone point me in the direction of getting a model to run locally and efficiently inside something like a Docker container on a system with not so strong computing power (aka a Macbook M1 with 8gb of memory)? Is my only option to invest in a system with more computing power? These local models look great, especially something like https://huggingface.co/AlicanKiraz0/Cybersecurity-BaronLLM_O... for assisting in p…

The general rule of thumb is that you should feel free to quantize even as low as 2 bits average if this helps you run a model with more active parameters. Quantized models are not perfect at all, but they're preferable to the models with fewer, bigger parameters. With 8GB usable, you could run models with up to 32B active at heavy quantization.

A large model (100B+, the more the better) may be acceptable at 2-bit quantization, depending on the task. But not a small model. Especially not for technical tasks. On top of that, one still needs room for OS, software and KV cache. 8GB is just not very useful for local LLMs. That said, it can still be entertaining to try out a 4-bit 8B model for the fun of it.

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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I have a 1.2TB cap before you start getting charged extra, so you might need to recalibrate your restrictive level.

Is that with a WISP by chance? Or in a developing country? Or are there really wired providers with such low caps in the western world in this day and age?

ATT once told me if I don't pay for their TV service then my home gigabit fiber would have a 1TB cap. They had an agreement with the apartment building so I had no other choice of provider.

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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Haha for now our primary goal is to expand the market for local AI and educate people on how to do RL, fine-tuning and running quants :)

Amazing work and people should really appreciate that the opportunity costs of your work are immense (given the hype). On another note: I'm a bit paranoid about quantization. I know people are not good at discerning model quality at these levels of "intelligence" anymore, I don't think a vibe check really catches the nuances. How hard would it be to systematically evaluate the different quantizations? E.g. on the Aid…

This would be amazing

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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So great to see my two favorite Open Source AI projects/companies joining forces.

Since I don't see it mentioned here, LlamaBarn is an awesome little—but mighty—MacOS menubar program, making access to llama.cpp's great web UI and downloading of tastefully curated models easy as pie. It automatically determines the available model- and context-sizes based on available RAM.

https://github.com/ggml-org/LlamaBarn

Downloaded models live in:

  ~/.llamabarn
Apart from running on localhost, the server address and port can be set via CLI:

  # bind to all interfaces (0.0.0.0)
  defaults write app.llamabarn.LlamaBarn exposeToNetwork -bool YES

  # or bind to a specific IP (e.g., for Tailscale)
  defaults write app.llamabarn.LlamaBarn exposeToNetwork -string "100.x.x.x"

  # disable (default)
  defaults delete app.llamabarn.LlamaBarn exposeToNetwork

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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Is that with a WISP by chance? Or in a developing country? Or are there really wired providers with such low caps in the western world in this day and age?

ATT once told me if I don't pay for their TV service then my home gigabit fiber would have a 1TB cap. They had an agreement with the apartment building so I had no other choice of provider.

Buy our off brand netflix or else we'll make it so you can't watch netflix. How is that legal?

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Mistral is cool and I wish them success but it consistently ranks extremely low on benchmarks while still being expensive. Chinese models like DeepSeek might rank almost as low as Mistral but they are significantly cheaper. And Kimi is the best of both worlds with incredible benchmark results while still being incredibly cheap I know things change rapidly so I'm not counting them out quite yet but I don't see them as…

Why are you talking price when we are talking local AI? That doesn't make any sense to me. Am I missing something?

Your electricity is free?

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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post #152

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Mistral is cool and I wish them success but it consistently ranks extremely low on benchmarks while still being expensive. Chinese models like DeepSeek might rank almost as low as Mistral but they are significantly cheaper. And Kimi is the best of both worlds with incredible benchmark results while still being incredibly cheap I know things change rapidly so I'm not counting them out quite yet but I don't see them as…

Why are you talking price when we are talking local AI? That doesn't make any sense to me. Am I missing something?

15 missed calls from your local power company

Re: Ggml.ai joins Hugging Face to ensure the long-term progress of Local AI

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> We have a local model we would like to distribute but don't have a good CDN. That is not true. I am serving models off Cloudflare R2. It is 1 petabyte per month in egress use and I basically pay peanuts (~$200 everything included).

1 petabyte per month is 1 million downloads of a 1 GB file. We intend to scale to more than 1 million downloads per month. We have a specific scaling architecture in mind. We're qualified to say this because we've ported a billion parameter model to run in your browser - fast - on either webgpu or wasm. (You can see us doing it live at the youtube link in my comment above.) There is a lot of demand for that.

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