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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

#81

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You want to fly a multi-hundred dollar device loaded with radios that constantly broadcasts out a unique ID and possibly your FAA ID and use it for crime? Or even better yet, get arrested halfway to trying to dip your drone into paint on a sidewalk? Just throw a rock at the stupid thing.

Do all drones do this now? Is this required by law for manufacturers to implement?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_ID in the US (FAA) at least.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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post #65

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The vast majority of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. But having video evidence is a powerful tool for a motivated prosecutor to actually take criminals off the streets

Any evidence of what you're saying about prosecutors and video surveillance?

there exists evidence proving that a fraction of individuals commit the majority of violent crime. thus, incarcerating those particular individuals would inherently reduce the majority of violent crime. is something missing from this equation?

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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post #45

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Where I am (Sydney Australia) we have fixed speed cameras that automatically create speeding fines to drivers going too fast (well, technically the registered owner of the vehicle via ANPR). They eventually had to equip pretty much every speed camera with a speed camera camera, usually on a much higher pole to make vandalism more difficult.

Oof, I really hate this automated enforcement. Might be time to get a paintball gun.

Tbh an overpowered laser off alibaba probably works a lot better at longer range

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

#86

This is cool and all but Ring is the vastly more important target. I don't think we can pretend the definition of "public" didn't change, now that it means "something is likely recorded for all time and you have no control over where it goes and literally everyone in the world can see it."

False dichotomy. Both are bad.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want to fly a multi-hundred dollar device loaded with radios that constantly broadcasts out a unique ID and possibly your FAA ID and use it for crime? Or even better yet, get arrested halfway to trying to dip your drone into paint on a sidewalk? Just throw a rock at the stupid thing.

Do all drones do this now? Is this required by law for manufacturers to implement?

Drones over 250 grams or for any drone operated commercially under part 107 registration is required. But, its easy to just build your own or desolder the id chip if you dont want it.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

#88

I'm surprised the flock cameras aren't being disabled in a more subtle fashion. All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint. Drone goes 'boop' on the camera lens, and the entire system is disabled until an expensive technician drives out with a ladder and cleans the lens at non-trivial expense. A handful of enterprising activists could bl…

> All it takes is a tiny drone with a stick attached, and at the end of that stick is a tiny sponge soaked with tempera paint I (EDIT: hate) Flock Safety cameras. If someone did this in my town, I’d want them arrested. They’re muddying the moral clarity of the anti-Flock messaging, the ultimate goal in any protest. And if they’re willing to damage that property, I’m not convinced they understand why they shouldn’t da…

Oh no! Not property damage! We can't possibly go that far!

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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The camera doesn't have a 360 field of vision, besides COVID masks aren't uncommon now.

Where I am (Sydney Australia) we have fixed speed cameras that automatically create speeding fines to drivers going too fast (well, technically the registered owner of the vehicle via ANPR). They eventually had to equip pretty much every speed camera with a speed camera camera, usually on a much higher pole to make vandalism more difficult.

This will never be a thing in America. Good luck putting the camera on a pole higher than a redneck can shoot a rifle.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

#90

Here's a list of Flock's investors: - Andreessen Horowitz - Greenoaks Capital - Bedrock Capital - Meritech Capital - Matrix Partners - Sands Capital - Founders Fund - Kleiner Perkins - Tiger Global - Y Combinator

flock safety were in one of y combinators incubator programs but to be fair, saying you want to make a camera company to improve public safety but then being used in a dystopian way... well it should have been foreseeable shouldn't it? Im conflicted in this, I love camera tech and its probably not going away any time soon, but wonder how it could be used responsibly for public safety only.
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