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That would shut out most people working for big corp, which is probably a huge percentage of the user base. It's dumb, but that's just the way corp IT is (no torrenting allowed).

It's a sensible option, even when not everyone can really use it. Linux distros are routinely transfered via torrent, so why not other massive, open-licensed data?

I have terabytes of linux isos I got via torrents, many such cases!

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ModelScope is the Chinese equivalent of Hugging Face and a good back up. All the open models are Chinese anyways

Not true! Mistral is really really good, but I agree that there isn't a single decent open model from the USA.

Mistral is cool and I wish them success but it consistently ranks extremely low on benchmarks while still being expensive. Chinese models like DeepSeek might rank almost as low as Mistral but they are significantly cheaper. And Kimi is the best of both worlds with incredible benchmark results while still being incredibly cheap

I know things change rapidly so I'm not counting them out quite yet but I don't see them as a serious contender currently

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It's insane how much traffic HF must be pushing out of the door. I routinely download models that are hundreds of gigabytes in size from them. A fantastic service to the sovererign AI community.

My fear is that these large "AI" companies will lobby to have these open source options removed or banned, growing concern. I'm not sure how else to explain how much I enjoy using what HF provides, I religiously browse their site for new and exciting models to try.

They can try. I don't think they'll be able to get the toothpaste back in the tube. The data will just move our of the country.

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I consider HuggingFace more "Open AI" than OpenAI - one of the few quiet heroes (along with Chinese OSS) helping bring on-premise AI to the masses. I'm old enough to remember when traffic was expensive, so I've no idea how they've managed to offer free hosting for so many models. Hopefully it's backed by a sustainable business model, as the ecosystem would be meaningfully worse without them. We still need good value…

Can we toss in the work unsloth does too as an unsung hero? They provide excellent documentation and they’re often very quick to get high quality quants up in major formats. They’re a very trustworthy brand.

Oh thank you - appreciate it :)

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Can we toss in the work unsloth does too as an unsung hero? They provide excellent documentation and they’re often very quick to get high quality quants up in major formats. They’re a very trustworthy brand.

I'm a big fan of their work as well, good shout.

Thank you!

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Can we toss in the work unsloth does too as an unsung hero? They provide excellent documentation and they’re often very quick to get high quality quants up in major formats. They’re a very trustworthy brand.

Yeah, they're the good guys. I suspect the open source work is mostly advertisements for them to sell consulting and services to enterprises. Otherwise, the work they do doesn't make sense to offer for free.

Haha for now our primary goal is to expand the market for local AI and educate people on how to do RL, fine-tuning and running quants :)

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Does local AI have a future? The models are getting ridiculously big and any storage hardware is hoarded by few companies for next 2 years and nvidia has stopped making consumer GPU for this year. It seems to me there is no chance local ML is going to be anywhere out of the toy status comparing to closed source ones in short term

Mistral have small variants (3B, 8B, 14B, etc.), as do others like IBM Granite and Qwen. Then there are finetunes based on these models, depending on your workflow/requirements.

True, but anything remotely useful is 300B and above

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It's hard to overstate the impact Georgi Gerganov and llama.cpp have had on the local model space. He pretty much kicked off the revolution in March 2023, making LLaMA work on consumer laptops. Here's that README from March 10th 2023 https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/blob/775328064e69db1eb... > The main goal is to run the model using 4-bit quantization on a MacBook. [...] This was hacked in an evening - I have no…

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It's hard to overstate the impact Georgi Gerganov and llama.cpp have had on the local model space. He pretty much kicked off the revolution in March 2023, making LLaMA work on consumer laptops. Here's that README from March 10th 2023 https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/blob/775328064e69db1eb... > The main goal is to run the model using 4-bit quantization on a MacBook. [...] This was hacked in an evening - I have no…

i am curious, why are your comments always pinned to the top?

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