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Diffusion language models seem poised to smash purely autoregressive models. I'm giving it 1-2 years.
Feels like the sodium ion battery vs lithium ion battery thing, where there are theoretical benefits of one but the other has such a head start on commercialization that it'll take a long time to catch up.
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#12I wonder how far down they can scale a diffusion LM? I've been playing with in-browser models, and the speed is painful.
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#13Releasing this on the same day as Taalas's 16,000 token-per-second acceleration for the roughly comparable Llama 8B model must hurt! I wonder how far down they can scale a diffusion LM? I've been playing with in-browser models, and the speed is painful. https://taalas.com/products/
But I wonder how Taalas' product can scale. Making a custom chip for one single tiny model is different than running any model trillions in size for a billion users.
Roughly, 53B transistors for every 8B params. For a 2T param model, you'd need 13 trillion transistor assuming scale is linear. One chip uses 2.5 kW of power? That's 4x H100 GPUs. How does it draw so much power?
If you assume that the frontier model is 1.5 trillion models, you'd need an entire N5 wafer chip to run it. And then if you need to change something in the model, you can't since it's physically printed on the chip. So this is something you do if you know you're going to use this exact model without changing anything for years.
Very interesting tech for edge inference though. Robots and self driving can make use of these in the distant future if power draw comes down drastically. 2.4kW chip running inside a robot is not realistic. Maybe a 150w chip.
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#14Releasing this on the same day as Taalas's 16,000 token-per-second acceleration for the roughly comparable Llama 8B model must hurt! I wonder how far down they can scale a diffusion LM? I've been playing with in-browser models, and the speed is painful. https://taalas.com/products/
I'd take an army of high-school graduate LLMs to build my agentic applications over a couple of genius LLMs any day.
This is a whole new paradigm of AI.
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#16Google is working on a similar line of research. Wonder why they haven't rolled out a GPT40 scaled version of this yet
Probably because it's expensive. But I wish there were more "let's scale this thing to the skies" experiments from those who actually can afford to scale things to the skies.
It would certainly be nice though if this kind of negative result was published more often instead of leaving people to guess why a seemingly useful innovation wasn't adopted in the end.
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#19I do wonder why diffusion models aren't used alongside constraint decoding for programming - surely it makes better sense then using an auto-regressive model.
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#20If this means there’s a 2x-7x speed up available to a scaled diffusion model like Inception Mercury, that’ll be a game changer. It feels 10x faster already…
Diffusion language models seem poised to smash purely autoregressive models. I'm giving it 1-2 years.
If people can make RL scalable-- make it so that RL isn't just a final phase, but something which is as big as the supervised stuff, then diffusion models are going to have an advantage.
If not, I think autoregressive models will still be preferred. Diffusion models become fixed very fast, they can't actually refine their outputs, so we're not talking about some kind of refinement along the lines of: initial idea -> better idea -> something actually sound.