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South Korean ex president Yoon Suk Yeol jailed for life for leading insurrection

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Everyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

I notice a reticence for people to speak plainly about things these days, because certain topics must be danced around at the edges in order for there to be any productive conversation. Canada's PM Carney spoke recently about the Power of the Powerless essay and the shared lie, when the Green Grocer puts up the "Workers of the world unite" sign. And I kind of fear that shared reticence to speak plainly is causing an…

It's been ~10 years. Everything has been hashed and rehashed to death. America knew exactly who he was on day 1. He came down the stairs calling Mexicans rapists.

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This is the correct way to handle a former president who tries to mount an anti-democratic insurrection.

He'll eventually get pardoned like presideng Park and the Samsung crown prince, Lee Jae-yong. But he'll probably do 10 or 15 years anyway.

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This is the correct way to handle a former president who tries to mount an anti-democratic insurrection.

It also illustrates what a real insurrection attempt looks like. [1] He declared martial law, suspended and prevented their Congress equivalent from meeting (and directed the military to enforce such), ordered the immediate arrest of numerous high level politicians with a goal of arresting hundreds, issued a declaration that all media and publications had to be approved before publication, ordered the power+water for a news broadcaster be cut, and much more.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_South_Korean_martial_law_...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has a lot to do with both! HN is largely interested in startup economies, so I focussed on that in my comment. I would contend that a startup economy can not exist without decent democracy. It's not an either/or as you frame it.

I disagree: TikTok, Alibaba, Deepseek, WeChat...

Interesting, I had not considered these the products of a startup economy, but then I haven't investigated their origin deeply, and now will. Thanks!

Re: South Korean ex president Yoon Suk Yeol jailed for life for leading insurrection

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree: TikTok, Alibaba, Deepseek, WeChat...

Interesting, I had not considered these the products of a startup economy, but then I haven't investigated their origin deeply, and now will. Thanks!

There are many more: Baidu, Didi, Huawei, Xiaomi, BYD...

Re: South Korean ex president Yoon Suk Yeol jailed for life for leading insurrection

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This is the correct way to handle a former president who tries to mount an anti-democratic insurrection.

It also illustrates what a real insurrection attempt looks like. [1] He declared martial law, suspended and prevented their Congress equivalent from meeting (and directed the military to enforce such), ordered the immediate arrest of numerous high level politicians with a goal of arresting hundreds, issued a declaration that all media and publications had to be approved before publication, ordered the power+water for…

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