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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by tucnak »

pawelduda wrote: post #108

It's safe to assume they'll be releasing improved Gemini Flash soon? The current one is so good & fast I rarely switch to pro anymore

Gemini 3 Pro (high) is a joke compared to Gemini 3 Flash in Antigravity, except it's not even funny. Flash is insane value, and super capable, too. I've had it implement a decompiler for very obscure bytecode, and it was passing all tests in no time. PITA to refactor later, but not insurmountable. Gemini 3 Pro (high) choked on this problem in the early stages... I'm looking forward to comparing 3.1 Pro vs 3.0 Flash, hopefully they have improved on it enough to finally switch over.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by syspec »

Does anyone know if this is in GA immediately or if it is in preview?

On our end, Gemini 3.0 Preview was very flakey (not model quality, but as in the API responses sometimes errored out), making it unreliable.

Does this mean that 3.0 is now GA at least?

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by kridsdale3 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #234
coldtea wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a pelican. What do you expect a pelican to have in his bike's basket? It's a pretty funny and coherent touch!

> What do you expect a pelican to have in his bike's basket? Probably stuff it cannot fit in the gullet, or don't want there (think trash). I wouldn't expect a pelican to stash fish there, that's for sure.

You never travel with a snack fish for later on? He's going to be burning calories.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by kovek »

1024core wrote: post #331
1024core wrote: post #260

It got the car wash question perfectly: You are definitely going to have to drive it there—unless you want to put it in neutral and push! While 200 feet is a very short and easy walk, if you walk over there without your car, you won't have anything to wash once you arrive. The car needs to make the trip with you so it can get the soap and water. Since it's basically right next door, it'll be the shortest drive of you…

Some people are suggesting that this might actually be in the training set. Since I can't rule that out, I tried a different version of the question, with an elephant instead of a car: > It's a hot and dusty day in Arizona and I need to wash my elephant. There's a creek 300 feet away. Should I ride my elephant there or should I just walk there by myself? Gemini said: That sounds like quite the dusty predicament! Give…

I think that semantically this question is too similar to the car wash one. Changing subjects from car to elephant and car wash to creek does not change the fact that they are subjects. The embeddings will be similar in that dimension.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

MrCheeze wrote: post #242
simonw wrote: post #52

Pretty great pelican: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Feb/19/gemini-31-pro/ - took over 5 minutes though, but I think that's because they're having performance teething problems on launch day.

Does anyone understand why LLMs have gotten so good at this? Their ability to generate accurate SVG shapes seems to greatly outshine what I would expect, given their mediocre spatial understanding in other contexts.

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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by panarchy »

I had it make a simple HTML/JS canvas game (think flappy bird) and while it did some things mildly better (and others noticeably worse) it still fell into the exact same traps as earlier models. It also had a lot of issues generating valid JS at parts and asking it what the code should be just made it endlessly generate the same exact incorrect code.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by Oras »

spankalee wrote: post #199

I hope this works better than 3.0 Pro I'm a former Googler and know some people near the team, so I mildly root for them to at least do well, but Gemini is consistently the most frustrating model I've used for development. It's stunningly good at reasoning, design, and generating the raw code, but it just falls over a lot when actually trying to get things done, especially compared to Claude Opus. Within VS Code Copi…

Glad I’m not the only one who experienced this. I have a paid antigravity subscription and most of the time I use Claude models due to the exact issues you have pointed out.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by travisgriggs »

cbsks wrote: post #208
sam_1421 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Models are soon going to start benchmaxxing generating SVGs of pelicans on bikes

That’s Simon’s goal. “All I’ve ever wanted from life is a genuinely great SVG vector illustration of a pelican riding a bicycle. My dastardly multi-year plan is to trick multiple AI labs into investing vast resources to cheat at my benchmark until I get one.” https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/13/training-for-pelicans-...

So once that's achieved, I wonder how well it deals with unsuspected variations. E.g.

"Give me an illustration of a bicycle riding by a pelican"

"Give me an illustration of a bicycle riding over a pelican"

"Give me an illustration of a bicycle riding under a flying pelican"

So on and so forth. Or will it start to look like the Studio C sketch about Lobster Bisque: https://youtu.be/A2KCGQhVRTE

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by CamperBob2 »

surgical_fire wrote: post #146
Robdel12 wrote: post #86

I really want to use google’s models but they have the classic Google product problem that we all like to complain about. I am legit scared to login and use Gemini CLI because the last time I thought I was using my “free” account allowance via Google workspace. Ended up spending $10 before realizing it was API billing and the UI was so hard to figure out I gave up. I’m sure I can spend 20-40 more mins to sort this ou…

May be very silly of me, but I avoid using Gemini on my personal Google account. I use it at work, because my employer provides it. I am scared some automated system may just decide I am doing something bad and terminate my account. I have been moving important things to Proton, but there are some stuff that I couldn't change that would cause me a lot of annoyance. It's not trivial to set up an alternative account ju…

For what it's worth, there was an (unfortunately unsuccessful) HN submission from a guy who got his Gemini account banned, apparently without losing his whole Google account: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47007906

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by 1024core »

kovek wrote: post #344
1024core wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people are suggesting that this might actually be in the training set. Since I can't rule that out, I tried a different version of the question, with an elephant instead of a car: > It's a hot and dusty day in Arizona and I need to wash my elephant. There's a creek 300 feet away. Should I ride my elephant there or should I just walk there by myself? Gemini said: That sounds like quite the dusty predicament! Give…

I think that semantically this question is too similar to the car wash one. Changing subjects from car to elephant and car wash to creek does not change the fact that they are subjects. The embeddings will be similar in that dimension.

I understand. But isn't it a sign of "smarts" that one can generalize from analoguous tasks?
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