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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by otherme123 »

eknkc wrote: post #151
mixel wrote: post #82

Google seems to really pull ahead in this AI race. For me personally they offer the best deal and although the software is not quiet there compared to openai or anthropic (in regards to 1. web GUI, 2. agent-cli). I hope they can fix that in the future and I think once Gemini 4 or whatever launches we will see a huge leap again

I hope they fail. I honestly do not wish Google to have the best model out there and be forced to use their incomprehensible subscription / billing / project management whatever shit ever again. I don’t know what their stuff cost. I don’t know why would I use vertex or ai studio. What is included in my subscription what is billed per use. I pray that whatever they build fails and burns.

They all suck. OpenAI ignores scanning limits and disabled routes in robots.txt, after a 429 "Too Many Requests" they retry the same url half a dozen of times from different IPs in the next couple of minutes, and they once DoS'ed my small VPS trying to do a full scan of sitemaps.xml in less than one hour, trying and retrying if any endpoint failed.

Google and others at least respects both robots.txt and 429s. They invested years scanning all the internet, so they can now train on what they have stored in their server. OpenAI seems to assume that MY resources are theirs.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by pqdbr »

jcims wrote: post #118

Pelican on a bicycle in drawio - https://imgur.com/a/tNgITTR (FWIW I'm finding a lot of utility in LLMs doing diagrams in tools like drawio)

How are you prompting it to draw diagrams in drawio

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by scrlk »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #58
makeavish wrote: post #42

I hope to have great next two weeks before it gets nerfed.

I've found Google (at least in AI Studio) are the only provider NOT to nerf their models after a few weeks

IME, they definitely nerf models. gemini-2.5-pro-exp-03-25 through AI Studio was amazing at release and steadily degraded. The quality started tanking around the time they hid CoT.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by chankstein38 »

cowmoo728 wrote: post #198
mullingitover wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's almost impossible to get Gemini to not do "helpful" drive-by-refactors Just asking "Explain what this service does?" turns into [No response for three minutes...] +729 -522

it's also so aggressive about taking out debug log statements and in-progress code. I'll ask it to fill in a new function somewhere else and it will remove all of the half written code from the piece I'm currently working on.

I ended up adding a "NEVER REMOVE LOGGING OR DEBUGGING INFO, OPT TO ADD MORE OF IT" to my user instructions and that has _somewhat_ fixed the problem but introduced a new problem where, no matter what I'm talking to it about, it tries to add logging. Even if it's not a code problem. I've had it explain that I could setup an ESP32 with a sensor so that I could get logging from it then write me firmware for it.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by roryirvine »

nickandbro wrote: post #51

Does well on SVGs outside of "pelican riding on a bicycle" test. Like this prompt: "create a svg of a unicorn playing xbox" https://www.svgviewer.dev/s/NeKACuHj Still some tweaks to the final result, but I am guessing with the ARC-AGI benchmark jumping so much, the model's visual abilities are allowing it to do this well.

On the other hand, creation of other vector image formats (eg. "create a postscript file showing a walrus brushing its teeth") hasn't improved nearly so much.

Perhaps they're deliberately optimising for SVG generation.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by defen »

sigmar wrote: post #70
bredren wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is that, a snack in the basket?

"integrating a bicycle basket, complete with a fish for the pelican... also ensuring the basket is on top of the bike, and that the fish is correctly positioned with its head up... basket is orange, with a fish inside for fun." how thoughtful of the ai to include a snack. truly a "thanks for all the fish"

A pelican already has an integrated snack-holder, though. It wouldn't need to put it in the basket.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by derac »

pawelduda wrote: post #108

It's safe to assume they'll be releasing improved Gemini Flash soon? The current one is so good & fast I rarely switch to pro anymore

When 3 came out they mentioned that flash included many improvements that didn't make it into pro (via an hn comment). I imagine this release includes those.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by embedding-shape »

cdelsolar wrote: post #182
embedding-shape wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At first when I got started with using LLMs I read/analyzed benchmarks, looked at what example prompts people used and so on, but many times, a new model does best at the benchmark, and you think it'll be better, but then in real work, it completely drops the ball. Since then I've stopped even reading benchmarks, I don't care an iota about them, they always seem more misdirected than helpful. Today I have my own priv…

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The harness? Trivial to build yourself, ask your LLM for help, it's ~1000 LOC you could hack together in 10-15 minutes.

As for the test cases themselves, that would obviously defeat the purpose, so no :)

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by knollimar »

spankalee wrote: post #199

I hope this works better than 3.0 Pro I'm a former Googler and know some people near the team, so I mildly root for them to at least do well, but Gemini is consistently the most frustrating model I've used for development. It's stunningly good at reasoning, design, and generating the raw code, but it just falls over a lot when actually trying to get things done, especially compared to Claude Opus. Within VS Code Copi…

Is the thinking token stream obfuscated?

Im fully immersed

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