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Halt and Catch Fire: TV’s best drama you’ve probably never heard of (2021)

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Post by nytesky »

nobleach wrote: post #300
raffael_de wrote: post #247

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I have Lee Pace on the radar since Singh's The Fall. Your assessment of movie magic is only partially correct. Obviously, a character has to be convincing by himself but the heavy lifting of the illusion is done by the peer characters acting as if they believe the role he plays. "The king is always played by the others" Not sure who is to credit for this quote but in my opinion it is one of the most important insight…

Even though Pushing Daisies ended too abruptly, I thought he was GREAT in that series as well.

Yeah, someone saw a love struck pie maker and thought: Ronan the Accuser.

He has range!

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Post by fugalfervor »

TurdF3rguson wrote: post #61
Sebguer wrote: post #40

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You have a very different perception of 'human' than I do!

The main character suffers from DID. From trauma that happened when he was little. Maybe you didn't watch the whole thing, that seems pretty "human drama"-ey to me.

That's not human drama. That's a sensationalized depiction of a really rare disorder that 99% of the audience has no experience with and cannot relate directly to.

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Post by billbrown »

klausa wrote: post #122
tptacek wrote: post #121

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Steven Conrad also did Perpetual Grace Ltd (he also wrote the screenplay for Pursuit of Happyness, which is the scariest movie I've ever seen).

I need to get around to Perpetual Grace; I've watched the first 15 minutes of it like four times and always ended up bouncing off of it for one reason or another; but I know if I got into it, I'd probably really dig it.

It's terrific. Just rewatched it for a third time.

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Post by billbrown »

OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote: post #21
danielvaughn wrote: post #3

Lee Pace's performance in that show is one of my all time favorites. It's incredibly hard to play a charismatic marketing guru because in some sense, you're not acting. In a given scene, the character might be trying to convince people around him of some crazy idea, but if he hasn't convinced you, the viewer, then the entire illusion falls apart. So he really has to do in real life what he's pretending to do on scree…

Lee Pace is such a phenomenal actor. He really just transforms the roles he's in and makes something special out of each show he's in. He's also fantastic in Apple TV's Foundation and it's been really impressive seeing his range put on display there.

Dig up Wonderfalls, his first series, and Pushing Daisies. They form the Lee Pace Triumvirate (with Halt and Catch Fire) as far as I'm concerned.

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Post by billbrown »

loevborg wrote: post #164
danielvaughn wrote: post #3

Lee Pace's performance in that show is one of my all time favorites. It's incredibly hard to play a charismatic marketing guru because in some sense, you're not acting. In a given scene, the character might be trying to convince people around him of some crazy idea, but if he hasn't convinced you, the viewer, then the entire illusion falls apart. So he really has to do in real life what he's pretending to do on scree…

If you like Lee Pace, check out The Fall (2006). It's my favorite film, incredibly ambitious and funny and yet virtually unknown to the public. Lee's performance is incredible, as is his young co-star's.

If you like Lee Pace, watch Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies.

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Post by billbrown »

idontwantthis wrote: post #29
danielvaughn wrote: post #3

Lee Pace's performance in that show is one of my all time favorites. It's incredibly hard to play a charismatic marketing guru because in some sense, you're not acting. In a given scene, the character might be trying to convince people around him of some crazy idea, but if he hasn't convinced you, the viewer, then the entire illusion falls apart. So he really has to do in real life what he's pretending to do on scree…

He also stars in The Fall, one of my favorite movies ever.

And Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies, two of my favorite shows ever.

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Post by deanCommie »

danielvaughn wrote: post #3

Lee Pace's performance in that show is one of my all time favorites. It's incredibly hard to play a charismatic marketing guru because in some sense, you're not acting. In a given scene, the character might be trying to convince people around him of some crazy idea, but if he hasn't convinced you, the viewer, then the entire illusion falls apart. So he really has to do in real life what he's pretending to do on scree…

Are we watching the same clip? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

This is from the pilot and I watched it based on high recommendations, and I couldn't keep going because the character you're describing as so convincing and charismatic is so dramatically unlikeable!?

In this scene, he is:

* disrespectful and entitled with a coworker

* privileged and self-important about his background with a client

* then makes an admittedly pretty rousing speech, but TBH the show doesn't really trust us to understand that "this is meant to be inspirational" because it keeps cutting to the other character reacting "inspired", which is significant because

* he doesn't make the sale

* then proceeds to verbally scream abuse at the other character.

and then i'm supposed to be excited about watching the two of these start a computer company together? ..........why?

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Post by theK »

walterbell wrote: post #379
theK wrote: post #374

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I don't see how it qualifies as a legitimate download or ownership. You cannot save the file to a disk you control and you have no way to ensure you have continued access to it. Apple or the IP holder can cause this "download" to dissapear from your device/account without prior warning. Its actually written in the terms.

Is a monthly subscription better? Few are willing to buy and rip physical media.

That's a problem for the "many" then to sort out. Everyone else that wants to own their media just uses Automatic Ripping Machine.

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Post by skerit »

bubblewand wrote: post #318
skerit wrote: post #220

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> Avoid seeing episode counts if at all possible I don't understand. How would knowing how many episodes there are have an impact on the show? (And the number of episodes seems just... fine?)

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Post by Terretta »

gorjusborg wrote: post #322
esafak wrote: post #64

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Lee Pace is a first rate actor but I could not recognize him or indeed, most of the characters in this show, as representative of their roles. I struggled to suspend my disbelief. The show felt like it was written by people who imagined what it must have been like rather than people who had any experience of it. I still enjoyed it somewhat. Not Silicon Valley good but okay.

I really liked the show despite Lee Pace's performance. Pace really nails the intense Jobs vibe, but having seen his other work, it seems like it might not be 100% acting. There's consistency to the off feeling he gives across roles. Gordon's role was probably the most setting accurate, but I do feel the story would have suffered if the entire cast was realistic to 80s standards rather than translated into late-2010s…

Almost no such thing as acting. It's all casting.

It seems fewer than 1 in 20 actors act, the rest are cast.

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