Open-source is not noble

onesandofgrain wrote: post #3

polliog wrote: post #2

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Perhaps it does, but that doesn't justify giving it out for free, especially not in today's day and age

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Re: Open-source is not noble

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Post by shiroyasha » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 11:27 PM UTC

That’s a fair point! For me, though, open-source was my gateway into the world of engineering, so I’ve always had a bit of a soft spot for it. Without it, I would be nothing.

Re: Open-source is not noble

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Post by onesandofgrain » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 11:30 PM UTC

polliog wrote: post #4

onesandofgrain wrote: post #3

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Perhaps it does, but that doesn't justify giving it out for free, especially not in today's day and age

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That's just a pipedream.

Amazon stole elasticsearch (opensearch), apple made appstore from the ideas of cydia/installer.app and IBM gutted Redhat (Linux) and are now selling it to Enterprises for their more fancy security. Big corps will just steal your FOSS and repurpose it, bundle it up, maybe obfuscate it a little bit here and there and resell it. Just imagine the sheer volume of FOSS running meta,google,aws and all the FANGS. Licenses dont mean anything, are easy to work around and besides, you can't fight these companies, especially not prove anything major.

Re: Open-source is not noble

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Post by onesandofgrain » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 11:31 PM UTC

shiroyasha wrote: post #5

That’s a fair point! For me, though, open-source was my gateway into the world of engineering, so I’ve always had a bit of a soft spot for it. Without it, I would be nothing.

See my comment below and the link to my writeout, FOSS is cool, but completely unsustainable. It's like slavery, but worse.

Re: Open-source is not noble

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Post by jacquesm » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 11:47 PM UTC

onesandofgrain wrote: post #6

polliog wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That's just a pipedream. Amazon stole elasticsearch (opensearch), apple made appstore from the ideas of cydia/installer.app and IBM gutted Redhat (Linux) and are now selling it to Enterprises for their more fancy security. Big corps will just steal your FOSS and repurpose it, bundle it up, maybe obfuscate it a little bit here and there and resell it. Just imagine the sheer volume of FOSS running meta,google,aws and a…

And if not that they'll comply with the letter but not the spirit so you're going to have to send them snail mail or fax to receive a copy of the open source parts but it won't build because they have a whole slew of requirements that you'll never be able to meet.

Malicious compliance.

Most recent example: Rigol.

Re: Open-source is not noble

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Post by onesandofgrain » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 11:50 PM UTC

@jacquesm exactly

Re: Open-source is not noble

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Post by onesandofgrain » Wed, Feb 18, 2026, 11:54 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #8

onesandofgrain wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just a pipedream. Amazon stole elasticsearch (opensearch), apple made appstore from the ideas of cydia/installer.app and IBM gutted Redhat (Linux) and are now selling it to Enterprises for their more fancy security. Big corps will just steal your FOSS and repurpose it, bundle it up, maybe obfuscate it a little bit here and there and resell it. Just imagine the sheer volume of FOSS running meta,google,aws and a…

And if not that they'll comply with the letter but not the spirit so you're going to have to send them snail mail or fax to receive a copy of the open source parts but it won't build because they have a whole slew of requirements that you'll never be able to meet. Malicious compliance. Most recent example: Rigol.

Exactly.