All of a sudden various governments and tech companies want to do age verification. Co-incidence?
Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps
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Re: Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps
#52Curious, what is driving this "you need permission to use the internet" bills suddenly ? Really miss the old internet.
It's right wing censorship plain and simple. Unfashionable to state this.
which 'wing' cheered loudly when every platform openly suppressed their political opponents during the last decade, and frothed in impotent rage when one of those platforms unexpectedly changed hands and ceased the censorship?
somehow, censorship is only bad when the wrong side does it. when the correct side does it, it's justified and necessary for your democracies to survive.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adults can buy a gun with no ID, no problem in AZ, fully legal. If you prefer that comparison, to an adult being carded to buy an app. I do feel I was making a good faith comment here. --------- re: below due to throttling --------------- >Adults can sell each other property with no ID and without the state getting involved, who knew. Yes and it's legal. Should be for apps too. Headline says all apps. ---------------…
Is it legal to sell a gun to a child in Arizona? Or are you responsible for age verification? You continue to argue in bad faith.
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#54In my ideal world a law would: 1. Require device manufacturers to allow the device owner (which covers parents of minors' devices) to set policy for the device, including allow/blocklist for apps and sites, and allow/blocklists for content categories. 2. Require browsers to respect the device's policy for site allow/blocklist 3. Require browsers to set a certain header for allow/blocklist of content categories 4. Req…
The biggest issue is, of course, (4) - how do you plan on enforcing that for sites that don't run out of your country of residence? Implicitly restrict access to only those sites in said country?
That issue exists with the current proposal as well or any proposal that leaves the enforcement on the website.
I think in addition to what OP said, the browser/device should let you set hard domain-level filters which are enforced by the browser/device.
This will not be ideal for applications / sites with mixed content, but gives the parent / guardian more control.
Re: Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps
#55In my ideal world a law would: 1. Require device manufacturers to allow the device owner (which covers parents of minors' devices) to set policy for the device, including allow/blocklist for apps and sites, and allow/blocklists for content categories. 2. Require browsers to respect the device's policy for site allow/blocklist 3. Require browsers to set a certain header for allow/blocklist of content categories 4. Req…
I think it's a great proposal if we add a slight alteration. Rather than requiring parents to maintain block/allow lists, the OS should allow the parent to lock in a birth-date, and that birth-date is used by the system to generate a user-age header, from there, websites can be legally required to respect the header and maintain whatever restrictions correspond to the applicable laws. This gives sites the ability to dynamically adapt to users, changing features and laws, as well as remove the burden from the parents of having to determine which sites are safe and not.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's right wing censorship plain and simple. Unfashionable to state this.
which 'wing' cheered loudly when every platform openly suppressed their political opponents during the last decade, and frothed in impotent rage when one of those platforms unexpectedly changed hands and ceased the censorship? somehow, censorship is only bad when the wrong side does it. when the correct side does it, it's justified and necessary for your democracies to survive.
I don't know. Which wing, and what's an example of the suppression they did openly?
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's right wing censorship plain and simple. Unfashionable to state this.
which 'wing' cheered loudly when every platform openly suppressed their political opponents during the last decade, and frothed in impotent rage when one of those platforms unexpectedly changed hands and ceased the censorship? somehow, censorship is only bad when the wrong side does it. when the correct side does it, it's justified and necessary for your democracies to survive.
I sometimes wonder how serious these sorts of sentiments are. Like, when you claim something easily disproven and openly partisan, do you know that and do it anyway, or is your internal dialog one of righteous outrage?
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#58See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_age_verification_... for a full picture of US states age verification laws, states in the article include:
Arkansas
California
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Mississippi
Nebraska
New York
Ohio
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Re: Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's right wing censorship plain and simple. Unfashionable to state this.
While this particular bill is all R sponsors, current censorship efforts are bipartisan inside the US and even international in scope. The one ray of hope is that left and right can’t agree on what should be censored or how, or even what constitutes “censorship.”
IMO when both-sides-ing a debate, it would be helpful to provide more specific examples to support the claim. Especially when your first few words acknowledge the apparent one-sided nature.
Re: Arizona Bill Requires Age Verification for All Apps
#60See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_age_verification_... for a full picture of US states age verification laws, states in the article include: Arkansas California Florida Georgia Louisiana Mississippi Nebraska New York Ohio Tennessee Texas Utah
California seems like the odd one out on that list. And maybe NY.