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Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by fossmaintainer »

murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

Here's the actual e-mail the fund sent:

Hey ******, I hope you're doing well. I apologise for the long delay on this disbursal from our end, and for not reaching out to you sooner.

I am writing to you with an update on GitHub Sponsors, your preferred mode of payment. Unfortunately, we're currently unable to process payments through GitHub Sponsors, Liberapay, OpenCollective, or similar platforms due to regulatory constraints. We still have no clarity on when this will become possible. We shared some context on this earlier here: https://floss.fund/blog/second-tranche-2025-anniversary/

We recommend that we move ahead with a wire transfer (although it involves some paperwork!). This involves:

1) Tax Residency Certificate (TRC) from your country of residence/incorporation for the current year.

2) Signed copy of the "No Permanent Establishment in India Declaration" (Template attached)

3) Form 10F to avoid double taxation for non-Indian entities and individuals. This is an online form that has to be filled out on the Indian Tax Department website. Instructions on how to fill it out are attached to this email. Please refer to this FAQ for more details.

4) Service Agreement – Please fill in the sections marked in yellow and send it back to us (Attached)

5) Invoice for the grant amount (sample attached with required fields highlighted, feel free to use your own invoice template if needed. Please mention "project development support" in the invoice description).

Once you have these, please send them over so that we can begin processing the payment.

Please note that these documents are required in our jurisdiction (India) for processing foreign payments. A percentage of the payment will be withheld as per the DTAA (Double-Taxation Avoidance Agreement) between India and your country, which the recipient can claim back while filing tax returns in their country. The specific withholding rate depends on the DTAA regulations between your country and India.

If you have any questions, please feel free to write to us.

Thank you once again for your patience

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

#32

Post by Dylan16807 »

Onavo wrote: post #18
giancarlostoro wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres. So... you want Supabase? which is what Pocketbase is inspired by.

It's not single binary, you need to spin up a dozen or so containers and have a full DevOps team on standby if self hosting.

Yes, OP wants to hand the database to their team.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

#33

Post by yorwba »

fossmaintainer wrote: post #31
murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

Here's the actual e-mail the fund sent: Hey ******, I hope you're doing well. I apologise for the long delay on this disbursal from our end, and for not reaching out to you sooner. I am writing to you with an update on GitHub Sponsors, your preferred mode of payment. Unfortunately, we're currently unable to process payments through GitHub Sponsors, Liberapay, OpenCollective, or similar platforms due to regulatory con…

Where did you get that email from?

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

#34

Post by Onavo »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #32
Onavo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not single binary, you need to spin up a dozen or so containers and have a full DevOps team on standby if self hosting.

Yes, OP wants to hand the database to their team.

No. OP said they want to handle the database to their team. They didn't say anything about the auth, analytics, admin dashboards, real time change data management proxies, connection poolers to their team. Your modern backend as a service that's not pocketbase usually has a dozen moving parts.

Most enterprise teams have plug and play SQL databases ready to go, anything else would require more work with DevOps.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by leosanchez »

a456463 wrote: post #22
bogzz wrote: post #14

Such a shame. I so love Pocketbase, used it when I was trying out HTMX for a side project. I get the sense that ganigeorgiev is feeling the thanklessness of open source work, and I so wish that he had an easier time of it. That said, it's a shame that a FLOSS fund being based in India is reason enough for it to be avoided. Like, I understand that Indians might be overrepresented in the scam space right now, but avoid…

The Indian Govt is dictatorial and segregational. It is a valid concern. Freedom of speech and privacy are not something the government cares about upholding.

The Indian Govt is neither dictatorial not segregational. Maybe authoritarian which every Indian govt. after Independence.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

#37

Post by anpat »

The conversation in comments seem to devolving in weird ways.

The OP (and others) have right to opinions but I see bunch of projects having successfully received their grants https://floss.fund/projects/2025. OpenSSL and Krita being the prominent ones that I recognize.

Calling the fund dangerous and unethical when they personally have zero control over regulations seems over the top to me.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

#38

Post by 8cvor6j844qw_d6 »

fossmaintainer wrote: post #31
murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

Here's the actual e-mail the fund sent: Hey ******, I hope you're doing well. I apologise for the long delay on this disbursal from our end, and for not reaching out to you sooner. I am writing to you with an update on GitHub Sponsors, your preferred mode of payment. Unfortunately, we're currently unable to process payments through GitHub Sponsors, Liberapay, OpenCollective, or similar platforms due to regulatory con…

Looking at the required paperwork, I agree with Pocketbase to refuse funding.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

#39

Post by iririririr »

fossmaintainer wrote: post #31
murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

Here's the actual e-mail the fund sent: Hey ******, I hope you're doing well. I apologise for the long delay on this disbursal from our end, and for not reaching out to you sooner. I am writing to you with an update on GitHub Sponsors, your preferred mode of payment. Unfortunately, we're currently unable to process payments through GitHub Sponsors, Liberapay, OpenCollective, or similar platforms due to regulatory con…

invoice for fund disbursement? are they trying to donate as expenses?
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