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Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by born-jre »

abtinf wrote: post #4

There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres. I get the philosophical reasons behind why it doesn’t and why it’s SQLite only. It’s just that in a corporate environment, I could trivially deliver full production ready applications because there is a team that handles all the Postgres replication/failover/ha/dr/backups/recovery for me. Pocketbase with pg would be super simple to…

I am also building similar product but with different approach And just using SQLite for now but plan on adding Postgres support ( orm I am using supports it ) … but nowhere near production ready. Due to buzz around products like litestream I feel like just SQLite is also viable nowadays. I also have own cdc based replication thing wip but yeah just having fun stage

https://github.com/blue-monads/potatoverse

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by BoredPositron »

murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

It's a wire transfer not your medical records. Use escrow if you are paranoid.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by DiabloD3 »

murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

I think it shouldn't.

The funding source was dropped by Github, and the terms Pocketbase accepted for funding include being paid through Github by FLOSS Fund. FLOSS Fund refused to follow the regulatory requirements to continue funding projects through Github, and Github dropped them as a funding source.

What the Pocketbase maintainer decided was to drop FLOSS Fund after they tried to renegotiate the contract in dangerous and unethical ways. FLOSS Fund chose to not follow regulatory requirements that Github required.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by bogzz »

Such a shame. I so love Pocketbase, used it when I was trying out HTMX for a side project.

I get the sense that ganigeorgiev is feeling the thanklessness of open source work, and I so wish that he had an easier time of it.

That said, it's a shame that a FLOSS fund being based in India is reason enough for it to be avoided. Like, I understand that Indians might be overrepresented in the scam space right now, but avoiding funding because of it involving "sharing data with the Indian government" is very silly in my opinion. And insulting to India.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by bawolff »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #13
murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

I think it shouldn't. The funding source was dropped by Github, and the terms Pocketbase accepted for funding include being paid through Github by FLOSS Fund. FLOSS Fund refused to follow the regulatory requirements to continue funding projects through Github, and Github dropped them as a funding source. What the Pocketbase maintainer decided was to drop FLOSS Fund after they tried to renegotiate the contract in dang…

Its a contract where they give money in exchange for basically nothing.

It may be reasonable for pocketbase to refuse, but i have trouble seeing floss fund being unethical or in the wrong when we're talking about giving away money for nothing. Especially when the ask is just fill out the paperwork for a wire transfer, the world standard for sending money internationally.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by Onavo »

bawolff wrote: post #15
DiabloD3 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it shouldn't. The funding source was dropped by Github, and the terms Pocketbase accepted for funding include being paid through Github by FLOSS Fund. FLOSS Fund refused to follow the regulatory requirements to continue funding projects through Github, and Github dropped them as a funding source. What the Pocketbase maintainer decided was to drop FLOSS Fund after they tried to renegotiate the contract in dang…

Its a contract where they give money in exchange for basically nothing. It may be reasonable for pocketbase to refuse, but i have trouble seeing floss fund being unethical or in the wrong when we're talking about giving away money for nothing. Especially when the ask is just fill out the paperwork for a wire transfer, the world standard for sending money internationally.

Don't think escrow is possible because of KYC requirements, then again the regulations in India might be different.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by sreekanth850 »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #13
murillians wrote: post #3

I think this submission should be re-titled. From the post, it seems that the author voluntarily declined funding from FLOSS/Fund because they "don't trust them, nor the India government, with processing and storing personal sensitive data"

I think it shouldn't. The funding source was dropped by Github, and the terms Pocketbase accepted for funding include being paid through Github by FLOSS Fund. FLOSS Fund refused to follow the regulatory requirements to continue funding projects through Github, and Github dropped them as a funding source. What the Pocketbase maintainer decided was to drop FLOSS Fund after they tried to renegotiate the contract in dang…

Are you saying sending money via Wire transfer is unethical? Its a standard way to send money in cross boarder transactions. Please do note that India is highly regulated for financial transaction that go outside the country so, please don't spread something like they are doing it illegally. Zerodha is a well known firm they are open about this funding. 1 Million every year just because they used many oss project. That is not un ethical.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by Onavo »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #5
abtinf wrote: post #4

There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres. I get the philosophical reasons behind why it doesn’t and why it’s SQLite only. It’s just that in a corporate environment, I could trivially deliver full production ready applications because there is a team that handles all the Postgres replication/failover/ha/dr/backups/recovery for me. Pocketbase with pg would be super simple to…

> There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres. So... you want Supabase? which is what Pocketbase is inspired by.

It's not single binary, you need to spin up a dozen or so containers and have a full DevOps team on standby if self hosting.

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by slopinthebag »

abtinf wrote: post #4

There are so many projects I could use pocketbase for, if only it supported Postgres. I get the philosophical reasons behind why it doesn’t and why it’s SQLite only. It’s just that in a corporate environment, I could trivially deliver full production ready applications because there is a team that handles all the Postgres replication/failover/ha/dr/backups/recovery for me. Pocketbase with pg would be super simple to…

like others have said, try sup abase

https://supabase.com/docs/guides/self-hosting/docker

i havent tried self hosting but it doesn't look too tricky

Re: Pocketbase lost its funding from FLOSS fund

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Post by sreekanth850 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #8

Back in 2024, FLOSS/fund was described like this on HN: > To apply, the project must place a funding.json in their public code repository or at a well-known uri location on their domain [...] That's already 10x more simpler than the 20 page document some of these other orgs have you fill. - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41857032 But the author of the issue for Pocketbase writes: > due to some unforeseen regula…

India have a strict process for sending and receiving money from outside as investment. Its mainly to avoid black money i guess.
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