If it makes anyone feel better even after he and his family have stolen as much as they can possible steal, a fortune more than capable of supporting generational wealth, they'll have already squandered nearly all of it and be back on TV trying to turn the family name into fifteen dollars for autographed socks manufactured in a country they despise or a donation from voters they also despise.
A sitting US president launched two memecoins that wiped out $4.3B+
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#72"Wiped out" - that money went somewhere..
I'd say this is $600m transferred from investors to insiders.
An interesting question is how much of that $600m was degen gamblers and how much was bribes.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Empathy is deserved. I have none for the lunatics that defended the recent ICE murders or still try to deny Trump's pedophila. If these people finally realize how garbage their views are, maybe we could think about forgiveness and empathy. Until then, disenfranchisement is the most efficient strategy.
> Empathy is deserved. I have none for the lunatics that defended the recent ICE murders or still try to deny Trump's pedophila. If these people finally realize how garbage their views are, maybe we could think about forgiveness and empathy. Until then, disenfranchisement is the most efficient strategy. That's some pretty messed up shit you wrote there. I'm sure you imagine yourself as somehow better than Trump, but…
I have empathy for those wronged by our messed up economic systems, and I believe the policies and candidates I advocate for will help everyone in the end, but I reserve the right to not extend my empathy to those who consistently chose mindless hate over actual solutions. At some point, there must be consequences for siding with these evil fucks over and over and over again. Let these consequences be a very negative public perception of the views they hold, which is very much deserved at this point.
Also, I am absolutely better than Trump and his supporters: I'm not a child rapist and I don't support those who are. And even suggesting that calling out pedophilia is equivalent to practicing it is very messed up.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Empathy is deserved. I have none for the lunatics that defended the recent ICE murders or still try to deny Trump's pedophila. If these people finally realize how garbage their views are, maybe we could think about forgiveness and empathy. Until then, disenfranchisement is the most efficient strategy. That's some pretty messed up shit you wrote there. I'm sure you imagine yourself as somehow better than Trump, but…
Far from "harming my cause", vindictiveness wins elections. Weakness toward the fascist idiots currently tearing this world appart only made them stronger, and worsened the situation. I have empathy for those wronged by our messed up economic systems, and I believe the policies and candidates I advocate for will help everyone in the end, but I reserve the right to not extend my empathy to those who consistently chose…
If it does, it's a pyrrhic victory. You'll complete the destruction of everything the Democrats claim to defend.
> Weakness toward the fascist idiots currently tearing this world appart only made them stronger, and worsened the situation.
Has Donald Trump corrupted you, turning you into your own kind of fascist? That kind of strong(=being vindictive)/weak binary thinking is very Trumpian.
> but I reserve the right to not extend my empathy to those who consistently chose mindless hate over actual solutions.
FYI, that's what one kind of mindless hate looks like to the hater. Especially since you're being very broad with it (e.g. including "his idotic voter base").
> Also, I am absolutely better than Trump and his supporters: I'm not a child rapist and I don't support those who are.
I don't think so: the vast majority of Trump's supporters are also not child rapists and don't support those who are.
I'd suggest you give politics a rest, unless you want to turn into what you seem to despise.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Far from "harming my cause", vindictiveness wins elections. Weakness toward the fascist idiots currently tearing this world appart only made them stronger, and worsened the situation. I have empathy for those wronged by our messed up economic systems, and I believe the policies and candidates I advocate for will help everyone in the end, but I reserve the right to not extend my empathy to those who consistently chose…
> Far from "harming my cause", vindictiveness wins elections. If it does, it's a pyrrhic victory. You'll complete the destruction of everything the Democrats claim to defend. > Weakness toward the fascist idiots currently tearing this world appart only made them stronger, and worsened the situation. Has Donald Trump corrupted you, turning you into your own kind of fascist? That kind of strong(=being vindictive)/weak…
You mean feckless neoliberalism? That would be great. In all seriousness, aggressively calling out actual fascist tendencies in the opposition is healthy behavior. Letting it flourish on the other hand...
> Has Donald Trump corrupted you, turning you into your own kind of fascist?
You do not know what fascism is. Educate yourself.
> FYI, that's what one kind of mindless hate looks like to the hater.
Good try. "You hating racism makes you the real racist". FFS.
> I don't think so: the vast majority of Trump's supporters are also not child rapists and don't support those who are.
Really? I have yet to meet a single republican that re-examined their support of Trump in light of the overwhelming evidence to his pedophilia. I can only conclude that they're all fine with it.
Overall, good attempt at the classic "anti-fascism is the same as fascism". We're done talking.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Far from "harming my cause", vindictiveness wins elections. If it does, it's a pyrrhic victory. You'll complete the destruction of everything the Democrats claim to defend. > Weakness toward the fascist idiots currently tearing this world appart only made them stronger, and worsened the situation. Has Donald Trump corrupted you, turning you into your own kind of fascist? That kind of strong(=being vindictive)/weak…
> If it does, it's a pyrrhic victory. You'll complete the destruction of everything the Democrats claim to defend. You mean feckless neoliberalism? That would be great . In all seriousness, aggressively calling out actual fascist tendencies in the opposition is healthy behavior. Letting it flourish on the other hand... > Has Donald Trump corrupted you, turning you into your own kind of fascist? You do not know what f…
> You mean feckless neoliberalism?
No, empathy. And a country were people more-or-less get along, even if they disagree, instead of one of hateful factions engaged in bitter battle for power and dominance.
>> Has Donald Trump corrupted you, turning you into your own kind of fascist?
> You do not know what fascism is. Educate yourself.
Read more carefully. I said your own kind of fascist, as in drawing parallels to bad behavior that you understand, in an attempt to get to see it in a different light.
>> FYI, that's what one kind of mindless hate looks like to the hater.
> Good try. "You hating racism makes you the real racist". FFS.
"FFS," read more carefully. Do you think racism is the only kind of hate?
> Trump in light of the overwhelming evidence to his pedophilia.
Please share the New York Times article with that bombshell, so succinctly stated. I must've missed that one.
> Overall, good attempt at the classic "anti-fascism is the same as fascism". We're done talking.
Actually it wasn't an attempt at that at all.
But you're right, we're done talking. You seem to seem to be retreating into an angry defensiveness of your Trump-like tendencies, and resorting to pretty blatant distortions to [checks notes] resist the idea of having empathy for others.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what I thought as well at first, but I've come to think that is just the cover story. While some of his base likely did buy in, I expect that _most_ of the inflows were from individuals or groups looking to influence the administration (aka bribes).
Yet he didn't feel the need to hide the plane he received from the Saudis, or the gold bars he got from tech companies. Hell, he even bragged about those. Because there's no one able and willing to stop his naked corruption, he has zero reason to hide it. Shamelessness is his signature, after all. No, his coins were organically fed by people who believe his lies.
You are willfully obtuse if you believe these are equivocal examples.
And not that it matters, but the plane in question was 'gifted' from the Qatari royal family, not 'the Saudis'.
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#78It's probably difficult to find out (but someone here could probably analyze the blockchain), but it would be interesting to know the mean and median stake of the investors who got wiped out. If the mean is large, it's mostly an off-the-books bribery scheme. If the average stake is small, it's mostly a pump-and-dump con of regular people. But it was probably just a gambling scheme with just one big bet, where as ever…
It can be both. Use the "Contributions" from "Donors" to make it appear that the coin is going to the moon and then dump it once enough credulous victims buy into the scam. Reward the donors with their appropriate tit-for-tat and then pocket it all.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It can be both. Use the "Contributions" from "Donors" to make it appear that the coin is going to the moon and then dump it once enough credulous victims buy into the scam. Reward the donors with their appropriate tit-for-tat and then pocket it all.
Those contributions are by the way, the direct bribe. Just send confirmation of your wallet and when Trump pulls the rug the bribe is paid and the pardon (or whatever) is done.