Live data from Hacker News

The only moat left is money?

elliotbonneville.com

61–70 of 398 posts

Re: The only moat left is money?

#61
I think the other moat is access to non-public data. If you can train, measure, or make decisions based on specific data that the vibecoder trying to clone you can't get, you can keep ahead.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#62

Have people naturally started sounding like an LLM when they write and talk? To me this article reads not fully human.

There's multiple things happening here. People are using LLMs to write, for sure. It's only natural to absorb what you consume, so as people read more LLM generated content they can unintentionally emit it.

And then there's classic confirmation bias; a lot of people wrote in dry academic prose.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#63
> When creation was hard, skill was the differentiator: you had to actually be good to make something worth showing. Now the barrier is near zero, so you need reach. Reach costs money or it costs years. Probably both.

Creation has progressively been getting easier since the invention of the computer, it is not a new phenomena. This naturally pushes the boundary on what needs to be delivered in order to find paying customers. In other words, creation still is "hard" if you want to succeed.

> I launched something last week. 14 people signed up — no ads, just a couple of posts. 14 real people who didn't have to. That number is tiny and it felt like something. Then I sat down to think about what it would take to grow it and I couldn't look at that math for very long.

This applies to 90+% of founders that have ever launched something. The hard part comes from continuing to push forward when you experience this (which you will over and over). It sounds like the author expects that what was hard suddenly should be easy.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#64
post #2

Capitalism working as intended, shifting more and more resources to the already-rich. A handful of people doesn't own most of the country by accident.

Wealth is not a zero sum game. There’s more wealth in the world today than 50 years ago, 500 years ago, 5000 years ago.

A free market is not a zero sum game indeed. Monopolies turn it into a zero sum game. To keep a market free, you have to regulate it.

Wealth concentration is dangerous for democracy, the markets and society.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#65
post #31
post #3

This AI boom is just a hyper-version of previous tech booms (web 1.0, VC, crypto, etc). You have an enormous number of people who just want to get in and build something, but the products they are pumping out don't serve anyone's need or solve anyone's problem. The moat isn't money for out-marketing your idea that 750 other people are building, it's having a good idea that solves a problem that nobody else is solving…

It's like that FT chart claiming that the rapid rise in iOS apps is evidence of an AI-fueled productivity boom. I always ask people, in the past year, how many AI-coded apps have you 1) downloaded 2) paid for?

> It's like that FT chart claiming that the rapid rise in iOS apps is evidence of an AI-fueled productivity boom.

I mean, there is evidence for some change. Personally, I'm sceptical of what this will amount to, but prior to EOY 2025, there really wasn't any evidence for an app/service boom, and now there's weak evidence, which is better than none.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#66
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a ton of creativity for a good restaurant if you have good staff, and upkeep. I'll take a boring well maintained and staffed restaurant over an overpriced "creative" restaurant where the waiters are terrible and the chef is even worse.

And you'll still probably get beat by a restaurant in a better location or one with better marketing

I can't remember the last time I ate anywhere because of an ad. I eat out a lot too, used to uber eats nearly every single day. I wont reorder at places that mess up my order, but consistent quality I reward. Chick Fil A gives me the best service out of any fast-food restaurant, so they earn my repeat business.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#67
post #31
post #3

This AI boom is just a hyper-version of previous tech booms (web 1.0, VC, crypto, etc). You have an enormous number of people who just want to get in and build something, but the products they are pumping out don't serve anyone's need or solve anyone's problem. The moat isn't money for out-marketing your idea that 750 other people are building, it's having a good idea that solves a problem that nobody else is solving…

It's like that FT chart claiming that the rapid rise in iOS apps is evidence of an AI-fueled productivity boom. I always ask people, in the past year, how many AI-coded apps have you 1) downloaded 2) paid for?

In addition to that, what they don’t mention is that:

1. Other app stores like Google Play and Steam haven’t seen this rapid rise.

2. There are thousands maybe tens of thousands of apps that are just wrappers calling OpenAI APIs or similar low effort AI apps making up a large percentage of this increase.

3. There are billions of dollars pouring into AI startups and many of them launch an iOS app.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wealth is not a zero sum game. There’s more wealth in the world today than 50 years ago, 500 years ago, 5000 years ago.

A free market is not a zero sum game indeed. Monopolies turn it into a zero sum game. To keep a market free, you have to regulate it. Wealth concentration is dangerous for democracy, the markets and society.

I think you have it backwards. Regulation is what enables monopolies. There is no monopoly for any of the major industries like cow herding or cellular telephone service in Somalia despite almost no effective regulation. There is not even a monopoly of pirates despite them willing to use violence to try and enforce a monopoly.

If you look at the history of the US, for instance, railroad regulation was brought forth largely by the railroads because they found it impossible to form a cartel to keep up prices (due to "secret" discounting) so instead they created regulation that outlawed the kind of discounting that breaks cartels apart. A similar thing happened in banking where the banks asked for a central bank to cartelize the interest ranks to stabilize their oligopoly. And the same in pharma industry -- big pharma loves high regulatory barriers because it keeps competitors out.

A large portion of the regulation in the US was brought about as regulatory capture by corporations to increase the monopolizing effects and destroy the free market.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#69
> The value of human thinking is going down. You probably knew this. The corollary is rarely mentioned: the value of a human eyeball is going up, because there are only so many of them and there are now infinite things that want to be looked at.

Hey, so I'm thinking about getting my car washed..

This article reads as overly hyperbolic; cashing in on the AI hysteria. AI derangement.

Re: The only moat left is money?

#70
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you'll still probably get beat by a restaurant in a better location or one with better marketing

I can't remember the last time I ate anywhere because of an ad. I eat out a lot too, used to uber eats nearly every single day. I wont reorder at places that mess up my order, but consistent quality I reward. Chick Fil A gives me the best service out of any fast-food restaurant, so they earn my repeat business.

People almost never admit it when they respond to an ad. Even when they very clearly do.

Don't underestimate the effectiveness of advertising, or its ability to influence you.

Post reply on HN