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15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by marssaxman »

It seems to me rather less likely that someone at Microsoft knowingly and deliberately took his specific diagram and "ran it through an AI image generator" than that someone asked an AI image generator to produce a diagram with a similar concept, and it responded with a chunk of mostly-memorized data, which the operator believed to be a novel creation. How many such diagrams were there likely to have been, in the training set? Is overfitting really so unlikely?

The author of the Microsoft article most likely failed to credit or link back to his original diagram because they had no idea it existed.

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by anonymous908213 »

Microsoft employee (VP of something or other, for whatever Microsoft uses "VP" to mean) doing damage control on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/scott.hanselman.com/post/3mez4yxty2...

> looks like a vendor, and we have a group now doing a post-mortem trying to figure out how it happened. It'll be removed ASAFP

> Understood. Not trying to sweep under rugs, but I also want to point out that everything is moving very fast right now and there’s 300,000 people that work here, so there’s probably be a bunch of dumb stuff happening. There’s also probably a bunch of dumb stuff happening at other companies

> Sometimes it’s a big systemic problem and sometimes it’s just one person who screwed up

This excuse is hollow to me. In an organization of this size, it takes multiple people screwing up for a failure to reach the public, or at least it should. In either case -- no review process, or a failed review process -- the failure is definitionally systemic. If a single person can on their own whim publish not only plagiarised material, but material that is so obviously defective at a single glance that it should never see the light of day, that is in itself a failure of the system.

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by adityaathalye »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #32

Microsoft employee (VP of something or other, for whatever Microsoft uses "VP" to mean) doing damage control on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/scott.hanselman.com/post/3mez4yxty2... > looks like a vendor, and we have a group now doing a post-mortem trying to figure out how it happened. It'll be removed ASAFP > Understood. Not trying to sweep under rugs, but I also want to point out that everything is moving very f…

Oldest trick in the book... Shoot the vendor.

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by adityaathalye »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #21
jezzamon wrote: post #3

"continvoucly morged" is such a perfect phrase to describe what happened, it's poetic

Was reading the word morged thinking it was some new slang I hadn't heard of. Incredible.

Same! I was about to go duck-searching for meaning, but thanks to jezzamon for pointing it out.

brb, printing a t-shirt that says "continvoucly morged"

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by ezst »

Waiting for the LLM evangelists to tell us that their box of weights of choice did that on purpose to create engagement as a sentient entity understanding the nature of tech marketing, or that OP should try again with quatuor 4.9-extended (that really ships AGI with the $5k monthly subscription addon) because it refactored their pet project last week into a compilable state, after only boiling 3 oceans.

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by ozim »

ChristianJacobs wrote: post #19
cwal37 wrote: post #10

LinkedIn is also a great example of this stuff at the moment. Every day I see posts where someone clearly took a slide or a diagram from somewhere, then had ChatGPT "make it better" and write text for them to post along with it. Words get mangled, charts no longer make sense, but these people clearly aren't reading anything they're posting. It's not like LinkedIn was great before, but the business-influencer incentiv…

LinkedIn is a masquerade ball dressed up as a business oriented forum. Nobody is showing their true selves, everyone is either grinding at their latest unicorn potential with their LLM BFF or posting a "thoughtful" story that is 100% totally real about a life changing event that somehow turns into a sales pitch at the end...

There are people who write genuinely interesting stuff there as well.

I use block option there quite a lot. That cleans up my experience rather well.

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by tabs_or_spaces »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #32

Microsoft employee (VP of something or other, for whatever Microsoft uses "VP" to mean) doing damage control on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/scott.hanselman.com/post/3mez4yxty2... > looks like a vendor, and we have a group now doing a post-mortem trying to figure out how it happened. It'll be removed ASAFP > Understood. Not trying to sweep under rugs, but I also want to point out that everything is moving very f…

An entire post mortem for a morged diagram is wild

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by thunfischtoast »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #32

Microsoft employee (VP of something or other, for whatever Microsoft uses "VP" to mean) doing damage control on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/scott.hanselman.com/post/3mez4yxty2... > looks like a vendor, and we have a group now doing a post-mortem trying to figure out how it happened. It'll be removed ASAFP > Understood. Not trying to sweep under rugs, but I also want to point out that everything is moving very f…

Microsoft seems to have thrown quality assurance overboard completely. Vibe generate everything, throw it at a wall, see what sticks. Tech bros are so afraid of regulation they even drop regulation inside their own companies. (just kidding)

Re: 15 years later, Microsoft morged my diagram

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Post by tkocmathla »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #22
alex_suzuki wrote: post #13

From TFA: > the diagram was both well-known enough and obviously AI-slop-y enough that it was easy to spot as plagiarism. But we all know there will just be more and more content like this that isn't so well-known or soon will get mutated or disguised in more advanced ways that this plagiarism no longer will be recognizable as such. Most content will be less known and the ensloppified version more obfuscated... the a…

> Most content will be less known and the enslopified version more obfuscated... Please everyone: spell 'enslopified', with two 'p's - ensloppiified. Signed, Minority Report Pedant

And 3 'i's?
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