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Re: Thank HN: You helped save 33k lives

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Chase, I was an early donor and had forgotten about Watsi — thank you for the reminder and congratulations! You should be super proud. Plus, the experience you got here will serve you in good stead if you decide to do a commercial venture — scaling a non profit is much, much harder than a commercial company with some compounding finances. That said, I have a pitch for you on Watsi - I continue to think Donor Advised…

I’m a fan of DAFs and agree they are underutilized. Getting ppl to donate stock might be hard but I’ll chat with Mackinnon, Watsi’s ED, about it and let you know if we have any questions. Appreciate the offer to help share research!

Re: Thank HN: You helped save 33k lives

#52
Hey Chase! Congrats on everything you, Grace, Thomas and the rest of the team built. I know it wasn't always what you expected it to be from the inside, but from the outside nobody saw that. They just saw something amazing. Your Startup School talk is my favorite ever, and I'm lucky I got to work with you all those years ago. You built something incredible, and helped a lot of people.

Re: Thank HN: You helped save 33k lives

#55

Never heard of Watsi, but I just donated!!! Grateful for your work, and sticking it out serving human beings while others hustle to secure the bag. There's nothing wrong with securing the bag, of course, but it just makes work like this even more impressive to me. Kudos!

THANK YOU! Welcome to Watsi!

Re: Thank HN: You helped save 33k lives

#57

Chase, I was an early donor and had forgotten about Watsi — thank you for the reminder and congratulations! You should be super proud. Plus, the experience you got here will serve you in good stead if you decide to do a commercial venture — scaling a non profit is much, much harder than a commercial company with some compounding finances. That said, I have a pitch for you on Watsi - I continue to think Donor Advised…

I’m a fan of DAFs and agree they are underutilized. Getting ppl to donate stock might be hard but I’ll chat with Mackinnon, Watsi’s ED, about it and let you know if we have any questions. Appreciate the offer to help share research!

Totally!

What you’ll hear from DAF folks is

“we have to sell everything we get in when we get it” -> not true, managed by disclosures

“Our job is managing volatility of the donated assets, so getting volatile assets would be bad for the fund, or possibly not allowed” -> not true, managed by disclosures

“DAFs are disliked because of asset stuffing, and on the down” -> true as to the first part. On and off legislative pushes centeraround getting 2-ish% a year as a mandatory donation, so you could be ahead of the curve on an ‘ethics’ basis with this as a rule.

“It’s impossible to value illiquid stock so we can’t get a proper deduction” -> not true, you can get an outside valuation, or see below on the secondaries

The scheme I’d suggest on a call would just be: find a friend who did well from your cohort, or pitch some of your VC allies that have helped on the board, see if anyone is willing to give it a try in the 10mm or so range. You’ll then need to find someone who wants this stock in the secondary market; this would be either the key partnership or the key staff you hire, and another reason to bring in the VCs here. You’d be able to accept any donor with stock that has a value in the secondary market.

One of the things we looked at was psychology on give now / give later, most founders are planning on mooning, and therefore want to give later. This lets them split the difference a little - deduction at current secondary prices, but they could hold off on selling and get more out to charity if the stock does well.

On valuation, to my mind the easiest path is finding a secondary buyer, then you’ve got an independent price.

We even ID’ed an Exec Director who wants to do this, and would be great! My contact is in my profile.

Re: Thank HN: You helped save 33k lives

#58

Hey Chase! Congrats on everything you, Grace, Thomas and the rest of the team built. I know it wasn't always what you expected it to be from the inside, but from the outside nobody saw that. They just saw something amazing. Your Startup School talk is my favorite ever, and I'm lucky I got to work with you all those years ago. You built something incredible, and helped a lot of people.

Thanks, Greg! We really appreciated all your help. Been too long.

Re: Thank HN: You helped save 33k lives

#59
Watsi is an incredible organization doing incredible work.

Chase and Grace are both incredible people.

When I was 15 and first starting Hack Club, I went to Startup School 2013 and watched Chase’s talk. It was the first time I had ever seen a startup founder who was starting a nonprofit instead of a for-profit. Afterwards he showed me the kindness of speaking with me.

Later as the years went on, both of them always replied to emails and gave great advice.

Many nonprofit founders understandably feel very protective of their experience and relationships because nonprofits can be zero-sum in a way that for-profits aren’t, but Chase and Grace are two of the most generous people you’ll ever meet.

Thank you for starting an incredible organization and being such an inspiration.

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