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GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple

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Switched to this from Apple a year and a half ago. Works for most things. Unexpectedly, replacement apps lack polish. Also, RCS works very inconsistently (been without it for months), seems to be Google's fault. There may be workarounds, but I haven't had the energy to try the more complicated suggestions.

I am probably going to switch back to a used old iPhone for "phone appliance" tasks, but keep around the Pixel for other things.

My main takeaway from the experience is that iMessage is an even bigger weapon than I thought.

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Not in Spain. I can access my bank's website but I can't do anything without their bank app. Even sometimes they require to confirm my identity using their app in order to access their website. I've seen this elsewhere, and it's absolutely ridiculous. Why? Because in almost all cases, the apps may only be installed with Google Play, and require the framework to work correctly. And that means? If you are not in good s…

As far as I remember, last time I needed to use Google play on a shared phone I could just create a random Google address (I mean, completely invented name, etc.) and it allowed me to do anything, just as my normal Android. I am too lazy to test, but did this change? Can't you just make a "fake" account and continue with your life? The phone company knows where you are, the bank knows what you purchase. Compared to t…

No, they will either immediately or shortly thereafter require you to link a phone number, etc

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What exactly is the risk of getting temporarily banned on Uber? You have to use a different taxi app ? As if such a thing even exists?!? Unacceptable!! Every app on my phone has at least one other app, usually already installed, that can replace it. This wasn't intentional, it just happened naturally. Unless all two or three apps in a category get blocked for me at the same time, this already unlikely situation is ba…

If the same thing happens with the Lyft app, you may be stuck at your current location indefinitely, especially in less populated areas/late hours.

And what is preventing Lyft/Uber whatever's algorithm to have a bug and just falsely flag your account after registration? Like there is no guarantee it works on a stock android/apple device either and I'm fairly sure they have a long list of false flaggings that support has to unlock day-to-day.

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Sorry, but then I take this as the usual - GOS is attacking other projects, that I can easily see in all their socials, and the other projects have done nothing wrong. GOS always claims that the other projects attack them since years, and never shows any proof. And indeed, I still never have seen any attack against GOS. Seems like this won't change today. You or other readers can check https://github.com/mozilla/ichn…

> Sorry, but then I take this as the usual Sure, you're free to do what you want. Just sharing my opinion given that I follow those projects from the outside. > You or other readers can check I guess what I am trying to say is that it takes multiple sides to argue. For what it's worth, your link shows the founder of /e/OS engaging there. I have seen both technically wrong and misleading claims from the founder of /e/…

I still haven't seen what you describe, the behaviour of other projects. And I dont believe it without proof (since it was claimed so often by GOS without proof being shown, or in some cases with it obviously not existing).

For the security thing: It is wrong to claim that an unlocked bootloader completely breaks the android security model. If anything, it breaks one specific aspect, one that doesn't matter for many attacker models. Besides, on some phones the bootloader just can't be relocked, that's on the phone vendor though. Signing keys for bootloaders might just not matter if change detection was working or the bootloader was not relockable, but maybe I'm missing some specifics there.

So imho what you describe as catastrophic scenario likely wasn't one.

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Been using this for about a year on a p9 pro. It works very well. I hear the google tap to pay does not work, but I've never tried it. However Vipps with their tap to pay works fine. BankID works but not with biometric login, which some things require IIRC. And for some reason DnB private works fine, but you are not allowed in on the corp app. It's mind boggingly stupid that they lock down apps like this, when you ca…

> I can use my bank on some linux distro, Yes, I've been doing that since 2009 on Ubuntu and Debian but there are several caveats. One of those banks has its own TOTP device and they won't replace it when the battery dies. It's almost 20 years old now. Then it's the fingerprint sensor on my phone. The other banks authenticate accesses and many operations with either their app + fingerprint (all of them) or SMS (some…

GrapheneOS requirement of Pixel devices is a dependency on Google too.

They are currently working with an OEM to release a non-Pixel GrapheneOS phone in the future.

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