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Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by jacquesm »

dgxyz wrote: post #50
metalman wrote: post #42

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for which Gretta is the litteral, antidote, as she has NO money, or such vanishingly small personal funds as to be of no account, yet hiches rides on sailboats to show up and berate parliments in there well worn lairs, her speach to the british parliment bieng a clear sign that she wont back down , and much worse, has such impecable manners that she mistook there talking and joking to be a technical mallfunction with…

This almost as bonkers as Thiel. Just the other way around. Truths are always somewhere in the middle.

Truths are definitely not always somewhere in the middle.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by JPKab »

mvdtnz wrote: post #130
JPKab wrote: post #116

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I've been on HN for well over 10 years. I literally volunteered for Obama's 2008 and 2012 campaigns, and my comments in that time period clearly show my politics. I taught free web scraping workshops at the Center for American Progress to journalists back then. None of my policy preferences have changed. What's changed is the frothing at the mouth radicalism and moralizing of the team I used to support. I'm not relig…

You ARE a religious radical.

You have made a false claim. What is your evidence that I am religious, let alone a religious radical?

I mean, if we're going to make accusations based on perceived political tribal allegiances, I can say to you with equal certainty that you're a neo-Marxist.

Of course I don't know that. And you don't know anything about me.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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randerson wrote: post #93
uyzstvqs wrote: post #45

Can't we just do this age verification locally on-device? Just some WASM to run a small AI model, which scans face+ID. I know it'll be easier to bypass, but that does not matter. We're trying to stop children, not adults with technical skill.

Don't forget teenagers can be extremely skilled technically. Plus they have a lot of time! But you're on the right track. I think of a solution like: 1. Browser does one-time age verification through 3rd party service, without disclosing any details about which sites you'll access. 2. Browser stores your age, signed by that service. 3. When a site requests it the browser passes that signed age over. The site simply h…

Ummm, i don't think teenagers on average can be extremely skilled.

Unless you think of some extreme outliers. Most of these I met can't READ and follow the step by step procedure.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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SeanDav wrote: post #64
notyourwork wrote: post #49

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Is a face scan accurate enough to do that with 100% accuracy?

Even a face scan is a hard no for me. I have no desire to make it easy for companies to start linking me (the person) to anywhere else, directly via my face metadata.

Especially if it lands in hands of Thiel. He's selling his services to governments, law enforcement and abusers like ICE.

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Post by jasonvorhe »

phatfish wrote: post #84
jasonvorhe wrote: post #47

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It's not about age verification but control and digital id.

Doesn't everyone have a digital ID already? My passport has biometrics, the government knows everything about me already through the tax system which is "digital". All my other interactions with the government are through digital services. What exactly would a digital ID allow a government to do that it can't already? Apart from solve all the issues with having to provide scans of (my already digital) ID documents to…

Debank you for wrong speak or think, leaving you with no alternatives. The more cuntries implement digital id, the more they'll sync with each other, making life more and more miserable for anyone who doesn't want to go along with whatever nonsense is currently being pushed as the new thing.

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Post by Hoodedcrow »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #112
randerson wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget teenagers can be extremely skilled technically. Plus they have a lot of time! But you're on the right track. I think of a solution like: 1. Browser does one-time age verification through 3rd party service, without disclosing any details about which sites you'll access. 2. Browser stores your age, signed by that service. 3. When a site requests it the browser passes that signed age over. The site simply h…

It'd be best to create a standard for this using wallet apps. You can obtain an age certificate from any trusted provider (decentralized chain-of-trust similar to TLS CAs), which you can then load into any wallet app of your choice on any OS, and use it with any online service which supports the standard. This should use anonymous, unlinkable(!) proofs, with the only certified data being `is_over_age`. Though I'd pre…

Wouldn't the age verification provider then be able to retain logs of what exact credentials it signed and for whom? And if the certificates are identical for every user, couldn't everyone change the presented certificate for the universal correct one?

Second one is a lot more sensible.

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