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Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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> Thiel is known for his libertarian political views and became a prominent supporter of Donald Trump

Apparently AI does deadpan sarcasm now?

More seriously, is there a technical write up on how they are generating these wiki pages from the emails?

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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post #46

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People talk about "inbox zero". I want to learn "inbox Epstein". Somehow, this guy had time to have regular email conversations with about 1,000 of the most powerful people in the planet (the head of the Nobel Prize Committee was one). And he did this before LLMs.

You can answer a lot more email if you type badly. And don't care about not recording federal crimes in a durable medium.

There were some occasions he replied to questions as "not for email".

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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post #48

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Yet it is rather serious question - most people spent most of their time to sustain themselves. I think that it is pretty bad for democracy that political action is delegated to only those few that are able to gain sponsorship and don't need to work to eat. We do not need professional activists, quite the contrary.

> most people spent most of their time to sustain themselves Do they? Or do they get convinced by adverts that their lives won't be complete unless they spend more than they can afford on an endless stream of shiny promises? I've always found it very easy to put a huge fraction of my income to one side because all my hobbies are cheap or free. I've sometimes expressed surprise at how much other people buy, or spend r…

Yeah, I'll tell my family we need to move to the mouldy 1 bedroom flat because a guy in the internet says so. That'll help with the mortgage bit;

Also kids need to manage their expectations and instead of having active hobbies (that require some minimum hardware but lots of activities), they should try sculpting with clay instead. Especially that with the asthma they'll get from the black mould they'll be in no position to be very active anyway.

I've seen clay on the field, so we'll save money here. We can also collect their art through the winter to bake them in the sun once they're ready (to save on the oven).

School? Right, we need to move to the closest one, why let them have friends or aspirations.

Now work, hmm, that's easy. Instead of going to the work I get paid a lot but commute cost over £5k a year, I'll take something that pays 1/6 of my original salary but we can save on the commute. Will he'll with arguing why we need to move to the smaller place and ditch their activities.

Living costs a lot.

And if I sound absurd so do you by suggesting your life choices are applicable to everyone or they're just convinced by adverts to spend.

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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post #36

Somehow there is a lot less discussion online about Thiel and Musk, both of whom are in the Epstein files. These are the most powerful people on the planet, steering elections at every level in America through their spending and connections. They need to be outed. Thiel appears to be a Russian asset since he meets with Russians at Epstein’s properties per the files. Musk is different. He simply begs Epstein to let Mu…

Well, I can accept that Musk didn't know about criminal stuff and just thought it's like a Burning Man and had a big FOMO. Even though I cannot stand buffone Musk, it looks like it to me. Thiel and especially Trump though are very different story. Trump happily dived in all the crime he could get.

> Well, I can accept that Musk didn't know about criminal stuff and just thought it's like a Burning Man and had a big FOMO.

... Wait, okay, I realise Musk isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but just how stupid do you think he is? Anyone corresponding with Epstein after his first conviction knew very well the sort of person they were dealing with; they just didn't care.

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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post #48

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> most people spent most of their time to sustain themselves Do they? Or do they get convinced by adverts that their lives won't be complete unless they spend more than they can afford on an endless stream of shiny promises? I've always found it very easy to put a huge fraction of my income to one side because all my hobbies are cheap or free. I've sometimes expressed surprise at how much other people buy, or spend r…

Yeah, I'll tell my family we need to move to the mouldy 1 bedroom flat because a guy in the internet says so. That'll help with the mortgage bit; Also kids need to manage their expectations and instead of having active hobbies (that require some minimum hardware but lots of activities), they should try sculpting with clay instead. Especially that with the asthma they'll get from the black mould they'll be in no posit…

You're inventing a fictional narrative unrelated to anything I just said.

Especially as this was in the context of how Greta Thunberg, who, to the best of my knowledge, has no kids of her own and thus doesn't need to also cover the cost of their hobbies or how to get them to school, and furthermore in the context of "how does she manage to be a full-time activist with no obvious means of support?" where such things as "commuting" is more like "hitchhiking on someone else's yacht for 2 weeks": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_voyages_of_Greta...

You can do a lot of travel very cheaply when your reputation alone is sufficient for people to give you a free lift across the Atlantic ocean as part of your own activism against, in that case, the CO2 emissions of flying. Should that be limited, given the travel itself was part of the attempt at activism to move people away from air travel, but also it took 2 weeks and therefore probably wouldn't do any such thing?

(For those without this advantage, I'm reminded of Tom Scott explaining how he managed to do so much on-site filming around the world for relatively little money; my own cheapest flight was under a tenner, an effect somewhat spoiled by the cost of the British Rail ticket from the airport to my actual destination).

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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post #33

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On the topic of projection, I wonder where the "Pizzagate!" frothing-at-the-mouth QAnon geniuses are, now that the actual sex-child-trafficking conspiracy has been revealed, just that it involves their champion fascists. Hah at one point they were saying an online furniture shop is a website for trafficking children hiding in plain sight, using coded messages to describe said children (something like "leather sofa" m…

A child-trafficking conspiracy was a total fabrication, meanwhile a major child-trafficking conspiracy was happening under everybody’s noses. What a coincidence, huh? Seems to me, like all legends, it started on a kernel of truth, then it evolved into something of its own. Not sure why you believe Pizzagate to be totally unrelated to Epstein.

The issue with pizzagate (and a lot of these conspiracy theories) is not that it was directionally incorrect about 'some heinous shit is going down' (which is a good cold reading any day of the week in any age), it's that it jumped to specific and often just unhinged conclusions from basically zero evidence.

The latter part tending to both create more problems and give cover to the existing ones.

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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No, some people are actually nutjobs with nutjob beliefs.

Sure they are, but Thiel is not one of them. Or rather, there's little reason to think the nutjob beliefs he presents to you are his sincerely held nutjob beliefs. You run into people sometimes, where you realize they're testing the waters constantly to figure out where they have you and what they can get away with.

Nah, I've met him. He believes plenty of nutjob shit.
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