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Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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Deliver a lot more tech debt

That tech debt will be cleaned up with a model in 2 years. Not that human don't make tech debt.

What that model is going to do in 2 years is replace tech debt with more complicated tech debt.

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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I fear that AI will be intelligent enough to negate human general intelligence before it is itself generally intelligent.

It's so attention needy, and it's transforming our culture

They already transform our language. Largely.

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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I've been writing code for 20 years. AI has completely changed my life and the way I write code and run my business. Nothing is the same anymore, and I feel I will be saying that again by the end of 2026. My productive output as a programmer in software and business have expanded 3x *compounding monthly*.

>My productive output as a programmer in software and business have expanded 3x compounding monthly . In what units?

Vibes

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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Until I can get a robot wife maid im not worried about or even confident I will ever see actual AGI. People have been predicting it for as long as fusion power and while progress has been made, we might still be like Romans dreaming of flight.

Dear sir, what does embodiment actually have to do with agi? Not much different than saying someone that is paralyzed is not intelligence. More so, our recent advances in AI have massively accelerated robotics evolution. They are becoming smarter, faster, and more capable at an ever increasing rate.

Well if AI isn't capable of running a robotic butler, I very seriously doubt it could possess any real intelligence because that isn't really that difficult of a task. It isn't a requirement for intelligence but more of a test to show it isn't there yet and is likely still quite far away.

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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I've been writing code for 20 years. AI has completely changed my life and the way I write code and run my business. Nothing is the same anymore, and I feel I will be saying that again by the end of 2026. My productive output as a programmer in software and business have expanded 3x *compounding monthly*.

>My productive output as a programmer in software and business have expanded 3x compounding monthly . In what units?

GWh

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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How will we know if its AGI/Not AGI? (I don't think a simple app is gonna cut it here haha) What is the benchmark now that the Turing test has been blown out of the water?

I would consider something generally intelligent that is capable of sustaining itself. So... self-sufficiency? I don't see why the bar would be much lower than that. And before people chime in about kids not being self-sufficient so by that definition I wouldn't consider them generally intelligent which is obviously false... to that I would say... they're still in pre-training.

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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Cultural changes take time. It took decades for the internet to move from nerdy curiosity to an essential part of everyone's life. The writing is on the wall. Even if there's no new advances in technology, the current state is upending jobs, education, media, etc

I really think corporations are overplaying their hand if they think they can transform society once again in the next 10 years. Rapid de industrialization followed by the internet and social media almost broke our society. Also, I don’t think people necessarily realize how close we were to the cliff in 2007. I think another transformation now would rip society apart rather than take us to the great beyond.

I worry that if the reality lives up to investors dreams it will be massively disruptive for society which will lead us down dark paths. On the other hand if it _doesn't_ live up to their dreams, then there is so much invested in that dream financially that it will lead to massive societal disruption when the public is left holding the bag, which will also lead us down dark paths.

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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Supranormal GDP growth is my bar. When its actually able to get around bottlenecks and produce value on a societal level

An agent need not have wants, so why would it try to increase its efficiency to obtain things?

Just put "keep yourself alive" in the SOUL.md. Might be all that it takes.

Re: Why I don't think AGI is imminent

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That tech debt will be cleaned up with a model in 2 years. Not that human don't make tech debt.

What that model is going to do in 2 years is replace tech debt with more complicated tech debt.

One could argue that's a cynically accurate definition of most iterative development anyway.

But I don't know that I accept the core assertion. If the engineer is screening the output and using the LLM to generate tests, chances are pretty good it's not going to be worse than human-generated tech debt. If there's more accumulated, it's because there's more output in general.

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