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Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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"Pink noise sounds like a waterfall." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise

Helps me quite a bit to focus when Im in noisy spaces.

This reminds me of an old Wired interview with Danny Hillis when he developed a system called Babble that used unintelligible vocal bits as background sound to help concentration, too bad it never really went anywhere. https://www.wired.com/2005/06/applied-minds-think-remarkably...

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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Researchers observed 25 healthy adults, ages 21 to 41, in a sleep laboratory during eight-hour sleep opportunities over seven consecutive nights.

Absurdly low n. Additionally, I've become very skeptical of anything coming out of sleep labs after my wife was sent to one (at a prestigious teaching hospital) by her doctor some years ago: the 'sleep opportunity' was lights out at 9pm for 8 hours, and the staff were wholly indifferent to the fact that she's a night owl and prefers to sleep after midnight. Additionally she reported that it was not particularly quiet or dark.

I am not a fan of noise machines but I have noticed that I sleep best on rainy nights, which has a similar average sound spectrum, and is about the same as the sound of your blood circulating near your eardrums. Testing pink noise along with aircraft noise (which is closer to red noise) is equivalent to just making the noise level higher with slightly more midrange energy. Some noise can be relaxing for light sleepers; too much is just annoying.

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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I grew up in South East Asia with air con running all night, when I moved away I found it hard to sleep in 'quieter' countries

This. In summer I get ‘addicted’ to fan noise and cant sleep without. I moved to Asia and the AC is such a blessing.

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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Thanks for sharing. I'll have to reconsider my nightly noise setup, but good to know.

If you're resting well with your current setup, I wouldn't change it. There are so many individual factors involved with good sleep.

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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I grew up in South East Asia with air con running all night, when I moved away I found it hard to sleep in 'quieter' countries

This. In summer I get ‘addicted’ to fan noise and cant sleep without. I moved to Asia and the AC is such a blessing.

I'm also addicted to the fan but not only for the noise I like feeling the wind in my face, I think that as it also helps lower your body temperature you sleep better

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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"Pink noise sounds like a waterfall." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise

With some friends we usually go camping near a waterfall and we always try to camp a little further so we don't hear the noise. At least not too much. We always assumed it was related to the fact that you can't hear anything approaching, some kind of primal instinct

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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7 nights is not nearly enough to get used to new environmental factor introduced in the study, possibly exacerbating disruption from sleeping in a new place (sleep clinic).

n=25? Seriously?

This is barely passable as an early hypothesis test before you perform an actual study.

Re: Pink noise reduces REM sleep and may harm sleep quality

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Researchers observed 25 healthy adults, ages 21 to 41, in a sleep laboratory during eight-hour sleep opportunities over seven consecutive nights. Absurdly low n . Additionally, I've become very skeptical of anything coming out of sleep labs after my wife was sent to one (at a prestigious teaching hospital) by her doctor some years ago: the 'sleep opportunity' was lights out at 9pm for 8 hours, and the staff were whol…

Sleep labs are like doctors are like mechanics are like restaurants - their only legal obligation is to not kill you,

not be of any particular quality.

Do your homework.

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