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Re: App Engine down

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I'm really happy I don't host in the cloud. How quickly are the cost savings of cloud computing obliterated by PR, customer service, and system administration time when an outage like this occurs?

Surely hosting yourself exposes you to just as much, if not more risk? Problem in the datacentre where you're co-lo'd, or one of your servers blows up?

I think people not trusting the cloud is similar to how people feel safer driving their cars then taking a plane. The stats say the plane's safer, but people prefer being in control. People like the idea of being in control of their servers, even if that means there's hundreds of extra things that can go wrong compared to a cloud provider.

We also get a lot more publicity when a cloud provider has an outage as LOTS of sites go down at once. Hardly anyone notices when service X who self-host go down for a few hours...

Re: App Engine down

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post #12

I'm really happy I don't host in the cloud. How quickly are the cost savings of cloud computing obliterated by PR, customer service, and system administration time when an outage like this occurs?

I don't think you move to the cloud for cost savings. More like time and headache savings.

Re: App Engine down

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My Google contact said that 'SRE are all over it. Hope to have more details soon.' but that was about 30 minutes ago. Does tumblr.com use app engine? They're down...

@tumblr (https://twitter.com/tumblr/status/261840787350896640)

Tumblr is experiencing network problems following an issue with one of our uplink providers. We will return to full service shortly.

Re: App Engine down

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post #12

I'm really happy I don't host in the cloud. How quickly are the cost savings of cloud computing obliterated by PR, customer service, and system administration time when an outage like this occurs?

Service outages happen to everyone. Thats why everyone advertises 99.99% uptime four nines or five nines. No one can achieve 100%. The good thing about the cloud is you can say, this one isn't my fault.

Re: App Engine down

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post #12

I'm really happy I don't host in the cloud. How quickly are the cost savings of cloud computing obliterated by PR, customer service, and system administration time when an outage like this occurs?

I think there is an interesting debate to be had here. When your site goes down at the same time as Tumblr/Reddit/one of the big guys, the damage might not actually be that high. In the minds of many, "the internet" is probably quite broken.

Re: App Engine down

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post #17

I think this is larger than just GAE. http://internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm It seems like large portions of the internet are down.

The internet is burning :O Well, seriously what could be a root cause that affects so many nodes?

Re: App Engine down

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post #12

I'm really happy I don't host in the cloud. How quickly are the cost savings of cloud computing obliterated by PR, customer service, and system administration time when an outage like this occurs?

It's funny, i've got the exact opposite reasoning : it's those moments where i can really appreciate the fact that i'm using the cloud : 1/ I don't have to spend the night debugging or replacing broken hardware 2/ It doesn't cost me any time, any additional resource, any support upgrade, any hardware. 3/ No one can blame me or anybody in my team for the fact that it's not working.

I don't feel like i'm lacking control, i feel like somebody else is taking care of that really annoying shit that happens all the time, no matter how well you design your system.

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