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Do you really wanna be competing with those people though? I'll be honest, I don't even want to be in the same room as them.
No, but I’m over the absurd pessimism.
I'm not worried about AI job loss
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The firm simply assumes that if the top X was sufficient in the past, it is still sufficient now. From the perspective of modern management, there's really no reason to keep people if you can automate them away.
> The firm simply assumes that if the top X was sufficient in the past, it is still sufficient now. > From the perspective of modern management, there's really no reason to keep people if you can automate them away. These are examples of how bad management thinks, or at best, how management at dying companies think. Frankly, this take on “modern management” is absurd reductionist thinking. Just a few points about how…
Is Microsoft a "dying company"? The stock market certainly thinks otherwise.
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I really think the doom consensus is largely an online phenomena. We're in a tense period like the early 80s, and that would be true without AI in the mix, but I think its a matter of perspective. We're certainly still way ahead of the 1910s and the 1940s for instance (it's on us btw to make sure we don't fall to that in time). Every generation has its strains and the internet just amplifies it because outrage is cur…
None of that answers the question: How will this technology be good for humanity as a whole?
I answered the more important question of a seemingly lost youngin and how to deal with the stress of inheriting a world in a bit of turmoil.
That said, trivially we already see it advancing math and science research as an assistive tool, development and more. Extrapolate it out a few more generations and it helps us unlock a whole bunch of things on the skill tree of life so to speak.
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As long as the owner class can leverage, "Hey, that {out group} is sitting around doing nothing and getting free money!" we'll never have anything close to UBI imo.
Seems pretty easy to work around with "UBI for citizens" only. There's not much pushback for social security, for instance, even if minorities get it.
Minorities don’t just get social security. People don’t get social security if they don’t work or don’t have a spouse who worked. They pay in to the system via payroll taxes. With UBI who is going to pay into that? UBI just seems like a pipe dream.
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#565I’m not worried about job loss as a result of being replaced by AI, because if we get AI that is actually better than humans - which I imagine must be AGI - then I don’t see why that AI would be interested in working for humans. I’m definitely worried about job loss as a result of the AI bubble bursting, though.
because it's designed to. It's not like naturally-evolved intelligence where it acts in its own interests (it is hard to even imagine what that would be in this case). The token-predictors are just acting out an obedient character. They do not have free will, they are obedient to the character they are playing.
If it remains just a token-predictor that can’t evolve, then I am not worried about it replacing humans.
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#566Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The firm simply assumes that if the top X was sufficient in the past, it is still sufficient now. > From the perspective of modern management, there's really no reason to keep people if you can automate them away. These are examples of how bad management thinks, or at best, how management at dying companies think. Frankly, this take on “modern management” is absurd reductionist thinking. Just a few points about how…
Is Microsoft a "dying company"? The stock market certainly thinks otherwise.
> Is Microsoft a "dying company"? The stock market certainly thinks otherwise.
This is the entire sentence that I wrote that you seem to be referring to:
“These are examples of how bad management thinks, or at best, how management at dying companies think.”
MS falls under the first part — bad management. Let literacy be your friend.
To elaborate, yes, I think that MS is managed incredibly poorly, and they succeed despite their management norms and culture, not because of it. They should be embarrassed by their management culture, but their success in other areas of the company allows the bad management culture to persist.
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You are describing in cases where small businesses have little headcount and cant shrink any further.
But in a much bigger picture AI is akin to what Excel did to a building of people doing accounting and bookkeeping. Except at the time there were plenty of opportunities for those people doing different thing in the market. Something that economists constantly burp about.
I dont see this now. For whatever reason the economy has so much more bullshit job than those days, despite computer and technology we have far more administration hurdle and employees than before. And 70% of those will go away in the next 5 years. We automated those needless complexity. It isn't clear to me in a world today where many jobs are specialised, there is enough time and room for them to relearn the skills required for other job opportunities, if there are that many to fill the ones who were laid off.
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I'd love to make companies pay for their products' entire lifecycle, including disposal and cleanup. It's not right that a company can manufacture future-trash, sell it, and then absolve itself of the negative externality when the customer throws the product away and off it goes into a landfill. If a company's process produces waste, it should bear the entire cost of leaving the environment the way they found it rath…
Yep, we should charge every farm for all the poop that people that eat their food make
Fruit farmers are furious.
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I am not in the sams context. As we shift in job roles lots of people will get uprooted and it will have a negative impact on life in a general sense.
Similar to any industrial advancement in human history.