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Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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It's not about age verification but control and digital id.

Doesn't everyone have a digital ID already? My passport has biometrics, the government knows everything about me already through the tax system which is "digital". All my other interactions with the government are through digital services. What exactly would a digital ID allow a government to do that it can't already? Apart from solve all the issues with having to provide scans of (my already digital) ID documents to…

Restricting content you access, or using that to shape what is offered to you on the internet.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Can't we just do this age verification locally on-device? Just some WASM to run a small AI model, which scans face+ID. I know it'll be easier to bypass, but that does not matter. We're trying to stop children, not adults with technical skill.

Don't forget teenagers can be extremely skilled technically. Plus they have a lot of time!

But you're on the right track.

I think of a solution like:

1. Browser does one-time age verification through 3rd party service, without disclosing any details about which sites you'll access.

2. Browser stores your age, signed by that service.

3. When a site requests it the browser passes that signed age over. The site simply has to check if it has a valid signature by a trusted authority's public key.

The browser could even use Palantir in this example - but they would never get any data about what users are accessing.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Not sure why you're being down voted but the answer is yes, it is the same Peter Thiel who gives lectures on Greta Thunberg being the literal anti-christ and if the down voters think you might be exaggerating or misleading them I encourage them to search this up. Edit - I searched to refresh myself, ok he didn't say she was the literal antichrist. He said she's literally a legionnaire for the literal antichrist. I ca…

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Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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If someone is saying that there are literal actuql existing legionnaires of the literal actual existing antichrist, and X person is one of them, it's not the "X person is one of them" part that I have an issue with.

The issue you have is that "literal" is doing all the work for you.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Who cares where they outsource the age verification to? They have no business keeping my ID scan or face in any case. Because there's an 120% chance they'll end up on a public S3 bucket.

That's what gets me too. It feels so easy. Just don't store the source data. They usually say they don't, they claim it's deleted quickly or never saved to disk at all or other stuff and its always lies. Just don't save it and there's no attack vector. Same thing with plaintext passwords. The amount of password leak attacks I've seen in recent years is 0 (though I'm sure they're still around). Stored IDs and PII for…

I have two older coworkers in my workplace alone that had criminals make fraudulent unemployment claims in their names. Fortunately they noticed and stopped it quickly. Undoubtedly the information used came from data leaks.

Now all these sites are implementing face scans, which would be perfect for such criminals to harvest and use AI to create fake videos of you saying anything that suits them.

At what point does legislation step in, here? Because so far, it's only moved in the direction that worsens the issue.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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And should not forget that Garry Tan the ycombinatior CEO attends the same church where Thiel held his Greta antichrist talk.

Garry is a good person and smearing people over their church is a disgusting thing to do. I am now going to sit here and listen to this talk because I guarantee it's not saying what you think it's saying. And I don't want to listen to it. It's not a topic that interests me. But I guarantee you are completely distorting what was stated in that topic for maximum effect, entirely motivated by left-wing politics.

I imagine you are not done listening to them yet as the total over 8 hrs. But my research is showing that OPs are largely correct. Theil gave several talks to his church where he did in fact say these things.

In your post you state you are ‘not sure’, but also that that the poster is ‘wrong’.

> My thesis is that in the 17th, 18th century, the antichrist would have been a Dr Strangelove, a scientist who did all this sort of evil crazy science. In the 21st century, the antichrist is a luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer.

Sure, he eventually goes on to say stuff like..

> One of the ways these things always get reported is, I denounce Greta as an antichrist. And I want to be very clear: Greta is, I mean she’s maybe sort of a type or a shadow of an antichrist of a sort that would be tempting. But I don’t want to flatter her too much. So with Greta, you shouldn’t take her as the antichrist for sure. With AOC, you can choose whether or not you want to believe this disclaimer that I just gave

But I don’t think this is the win that you might think it is. The dude is a loon.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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If someone is saying that there are literal actuql existing legionnaires of the literal actual existing antichrist, and X person is one of them, it's not the "X person is one of them" part that I have an issue with.

The issue you have is that "literal" is doing all the work for you.

What work is it doing? He believes these things literally, that the antichrist exists like Taylor Swift exists.
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