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Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by cookiengineer »

Hawxy wrote: post #29
Morromist wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Argento Dragone said in the Kotaku comments: "Face scanning is used to do ID verification on your device and then deleted immediately." "By immediately I mean we send it to k-ID who said that's what they do." "By that I mean they partnered with Persona to do the actual verification." "Persona clarified that by 'immediately' they mean 'after seven days.'" "And given their ties to Palantir, it's probably fine. You t…

> "By immediately I mean we send it to k-ID who said that's what they do." People have already validated this fyi. When k-ID was first added you could send a bogus age result to discord from your local device, which probably still works. There's no evidence your facial scans leave the device. > "By that I mean they partnered with Persona to do the actual verification." Which isn't true, it was a UK-only experiment be…

Enter into Google: Discord breach october 2025

Discord probably still claims they weren't hacked. How they handle incidents like this matters to a lot of folks, and that's what this is about.

3 months after a major breach, how could anybody possibly believe that they fixed all their wrong organizational policies and security measurements within that time, while still not even acknowledging the incident?

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by foldr »

dgxyz wrote: post #50
metalman wrote: post #42

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for which Gretta is the litteral, antidote, as she has NO money, or such vanishingly small personal funds as to be of no account, yet hiches rides on sailboats to show up and berate parliments in there well worn lairs, her speach to the british parliment bieng a clear sign that she wont back down , and much worse, has such impecable manners that she mistook there talking and joking to be a technical mallfunction with…

This almost as bonkers as Thiel. Just the other way around. Truths are always somewhere in the middle.

I don’t have a strong opinion on Thunberg herself, but no, truths aren’t always in the middle. Thiel is clearly a complete fruitcake, so it does not make sense to triangulate based on any position that he holds.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by dgxyz »

foldr wrote: post #52
dgxyz wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This almost as bonkers as Thiel. Just the other way around. Truths are always somewhere in the middle.

I don’t have a strong opinion on Thunberg herself, but no, truths aren’t always in the middle. Thiel is clearly a complete fruitcake, so it does not make sense to triangulate based on any position that he holds.

Oh completely. I think you missed my point. Divisive narratives are almost entirely always wrong. The truth generally sits way away from the fruitcakes somewhere in the middle.

The problem these days is we give fruitcakes a stage. Or they buy one.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by pnt12 »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #45

Can't we just do this age verification locally on-device? Just some WASM to run a small AI model, which scans face+ID. I know it'll be easier to bypass, but that does not matter. We're trying to stop children, not adults with technical skill.

The browser could also emit the age, which sites could check to block, and parents could manage via parental controls.

But that's no fun: can't assure control of the children (bad), monetization (even worse) not share with government (the worst, given the current administration).

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by foldr »

dgxyz wrote: post #53
foldr wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t have a strong opinion on Thunberg herself, but no, truths aren’t always in the middle. Thiel is clearly a complete fruitcake, so it does not make sense to triangulate based on any position that he holds.

Oh completely. I think you missed my point. Divisive narratives are almost entirely always wrong. The truth generally sits way away from the fruitcakes somewhere in the middle. The problem these days is we give fruitcakes a stage. Or they buy one.

Right, but if you are using Thiel as a point of reference, you’re going to find a midpoint between sanity and insanity, which isn’t the truth. Say what you will about Thunberg, but she is not insane in the way that Thiel is.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by hinata08 »

rockskon wrote: post #12

"Discord Distances itself from Peter Thiel's Palantir Age Verification Firm" means jack shit if they're still doing business with them. And Discord has approached this in such a monstrously awful way that I don't know what they could possibly say at this point to make me believe them. I fully expect Discord will buddy-buddy right back up with some other Thiel-affiliated company if there is a separation if not go righ…

To do the Simpsons quotes like suggested in the article, Discord picking age verification "third party providers" definitely looks like they park various vans across the street. One of them didn't delete IDs properly and leaked them.

Now Peter Thiel's Age verification truck has been parked across the street for 2 weeks. How long does it take to deliver a pizza ?

They need to replace it with Flowers By Irene van ? Who wants to create that company and try to sell it ?

I'm dumbfounded that a big tech company that says they take age verification so seriously just subcontracts that part to this set of various subcontractor with no apparent vetting.

I do love Discord as a platform and I happily took subscriptions for me and some friends, but I don't understand who steers it.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by uyzstvqs »

pnt12 wrote: post #54
uyzstvqs wrote: post #45

Can't we just do this age verification locally on-device? Just some WASM to run a small AI model, which scans face+ID. I know it'll be easier to bypass, but that does not matter. We're trying to stop children, not adults with technical skill.

The browser could also emit the age, which sites could check to block, and parents could manage via parental controls. But that's no fun: can't assure control of the children (bad), monetization (even worse) not share with government (the worst, given the current administration).

True, and that'd be the best method by far. A European politician recently proposed this.[0] The issue is that a single service can't just implement this. If I'm a service and I need age verification, I need something that I can implement by myself.

[0] https://democrats.eu/en/protecting-minors-online-without-vio...

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by Hikikomori »

Hikikomori wrote: post #25
stavros wrote: post #23

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Yeah, he definitely has gone off the rails lately with all the talk about the antichrist being a literal existing being with emissaries on earth. I haven't been watching his stuff but the little I've seen was unhinged.

Lately? "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." 2009 He is just executing on this, and some of religious technocratic nonsense beliefs just leaked a bit.

And should not forget that Garry Tan the ycombinatior CEO attends the same church where Thiel held his Greta antichrist talk.

Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by dgxyz »

foldr wrote: post #55
dgxyz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh completely. I think you missed my point. Divisive narratives are almost entirely always wrong. The truth generally sits way away from the fruitcakes somewhere in the middle. The problem these days is we give fruitcakes a stage. Or they buy one.

Right, but if you are using Thiel as a point of reference, you’re going to find a midpoint between sanity and insanity, which isn’t the truth. Say what you will about Thunberg, but she is not insane in the way that Thiel is.

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Re: Discord distances from age verification firm after ties to Peter Thiel surface

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Post by fooqux »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #57
pnt12 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The browser could also emit the age, which sites could check to block, and parents could manage via parental controls. But that's no fun: can't assure control of the children (bad), monetization (even worse) not share with government (the worst, given the current administration).

True, and that'd be the best method by far. A European politician recently proposed this.[0] The issue is that a single service can't just implement this. If I'm a service and I need age verification, I need something that I can implement by myself. [0] https://democrats.eu/en/protecting-minors-online-without-vio...

> The issue is that a single service can't just implement this. If I'm a service and I need age verification, I need something that I can implement by myself.

I don't understand. A simple if age<18 check is quite a lot easier to implement than doing age verification yourself, or even shopping it out to some other "partner".

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