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where is this documented?
Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
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#12"Anti foreigner sentiment"? Dear NYT, try to find an apartment in the EU or Switzerland. At best, you will get a furnished (to circumvent rent caps), overpriced 30 square meter dump that takes up 40% of your net salary. Once that problem is solved, we can talk about "sentiments".
Maybe work on changing zoning laws instead of pandering to farmers and rural cantons?
It's much easier to blame the out group for your issues. The US currently has a sizable percentage of people that believe ICE deportations are going to lower housing prices, for example.
Re: Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
#13"Anti foreigner sentiment"? Dear NYT, try to find an apartment in the EU or Switzerland. At best, you will get a furnished (to circumvent rent caps), overpriced 30 square meter dump that takes up 40% of your net salary. Once that problem is solved, we can talk about "sentiments".
Maybe work on changing zoning laws instead of pandering to farmers and rural cantons?
Citizens can choose to prioritize quality of life over maximizing housing stock to increase the domestic population. “We’re all full up.” It is their country after all, it is their choice. Those who want in are not stakeholders nor have a vote.
Re: Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
#14Walk around Google Geneva (edit: doh, Zurich - my coffee hasn't kicked in), Novartis Basel, or CERN and count how many "Swiss" nationals there are. A large portion are white collar immigrants from CEE or Asia, or French commuters. Switzerland's comparative advantage as an innovation hub was due to it's permissive capital structures and historic openness to white collar immigration. All that a rule like this does is i…
Swiss comp advantage started in WWII when they were used to exchange Nazis gold into other currencies - this gave them a topstart for the economic period after the war since they were perfectly connected globally and they understood to scale & keep this advantage for long time. Maybe its fading a little bit nowadays
Sure in finance (and even then it has been overshadowed by London, Frankfurt, and Amsterdam by the 2000s), but not really in innovation industries like the Life Sciences - which has historically been Switzerland's strongest niche and a major reason for Switzerland's modern success.
This was largely due to the success of Biogen in the 1980s which helped link American biopharma IP with the Swiss ecosystem along with a fairly permissive PR program for skilled foreign nationals.
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> Roche and Lanza
Roche and Lanza would have remained CDMOs if it wasn't for Biogen bringing an entire generation of Harvard and MIT Biopharma researchers to Switzerland in the 1980s and helped build an ecosystem for therapeutics and biopharma R&D.
Much of Roche's biopharma and therapeutics leadership and IP is derived from Biogen alumni.
Re: Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
#15"Anti foreigner sentiment"? Dear NYT, try to find an apartment in the EU or Switzerland. At best, you will get a furnished (to circumvent rent caps), overpriced 30 square meter dump that takes up 40% of your net salary. Once that problem is solved, we can talk about "sentiments".
im not sure about Switzerland, but there are areas in Germany, where you can.
I doubt that very much. Sure there's places where the rent is less, but there's no jobs there. So a very low rent will still be over 40% of your pay (ie. nothing)
Re: Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
#16Walk around Google Geneva (edit: doh, Zurich - my coffee hasn't kicked in), Novartis Basel, or CERN and count how many "Swiss" nationals there are. A large portion are white collar immigrants from CEE or Asia, or French commuters. Switzerland's comparative advantage as an innovation hub was due to it's permissive capital structures and historic openness to white collar immigration. All that a rule like this does is i…
Swiss comp advantage started in WWII when they were used to exchange Nazis gold into other currencies - this gave them a topstart for the economic period after the war since they were perfectly connected globally and they understood to scale & keep this advantage for long time. Maybe its fading a little bit nowadays
To be honest during WWII, Switzerland was surrounded by the Nazis. Literally. On all sides, and learned a harsh lesson on not just the importance of military readiness but also economic resilience. So they took what they could get.
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#17Walk around Google Geneva (edit: doh, Zurich - my coffee hasn't kicked in), Novartis Basel, or CERN and count how many "Swiss" nationals there are. A large portion are white collar immigrants from CEE or Asia, or French commuters. Switzerland's comparative advantage as an innovation hub was due to it's permissive capital structures and historic openness to white collar immigration. All that a rule like this does is i…
Swiss comp advantage started in WWII when they were used to exchange Nazis gold into other currencies - this gave them a topstart for the economic period after the war since they were perfectly connected globally and they understood to scale & keep this advantage for long time. Maybe its fading a little bit nowadays
This seems a highly biased view. You could also say that because Switzerland wasn’t war raged they had a had start.
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> who were also protected by the minister of justice’s approach to justice
I've repeatedly called you a dumbass on this website and it's not about to change with this comment: the minister of justice is not in charge of:
* Police
* Arresting people
* Building prisons
* Fixing the prison overpopulation that makes it impossible to send someone to jail.
* Changing laws.
> before you say it: the Crans Montana owner was French, with the name of Macron’s first minister of justice
Macron's ministers of justice were Bayrou, then Belloubet, before Dupont-Moretti. Who hasn't been minister since 2024. That's without considering the fact that it's the most absolute dog shit "link" you could make. Last names can be shared, woohoo. Zero relationship between Jacques Moretti and Eric Dupont-Moretti.
Dumbass.
Re: Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
#19"Anti foreigner sentiment"? Dear NYT, try to find an apartment in the EU or Switzerland. At best, you will get a furnished (to circumvent rent caps), overpriced 30 square meter dump that takes up 40% of your net salary. Once that problem is solved, we can talk about "sentiments".
Maybe work on changing zoning laws instead of pandering to farmers and rural cantons?
Why would they want to do that?
Re: Switzerland to vote on capping population at 10M
#20Western societies are aging. If you don't take in immigrants (which is basically the government becoming the far right), you're on a timer. Your economy will slow, insecurity will rise, and the far right will surge anyway. It's happening to Japan.
As far as I can tell, the problem is inequality leading to widespread insecurity because the rich buy up housing. The right wing has no solutions. What you probably need is Vienna-style public housing and very high taxes to reduce inequality and fund social services. But then the rich always threaten capital flight to tank your economy.