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Re: Ask HN: Light grey text is killing my eyes.

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I haven't seen a rationale for it yet but I'd guess that it's a subtle way of encouraging descriptions to be short (like the one you just wrote), it's probably intentional that it's hard to read long rambling posts like http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468139 I read a pg comment somewhere that makes me think that's his design decision - he already weighs "Ask HN" type of posts differently than the standard one wit…

Yes; I do this to discourage people from making too many such posts, and making them too long. I don't want HN to turn into a blogging platform. Also, I wanted to make it easy to tell these posts from comments. If I made the text black I'd have to make it smaller, and then it would look just like a comment. But I'm not wedded to the current way of doing things. I'd be open to alternatives.

I'm not sure it discourages long posts. The writer doesn't see it's gray until the text is posted.

Re: Ask HN: Light grey text is killing my eyes.

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For firefox, put this in your user stylesheet @-moz-document url-prefix( http://news.ycombinator.com/) { td { color: #000000 !important; } td.subtext { color: #828282 !important; } } see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=467680 for more info.

Thanks for the tip.

Does anyone have good designs that stray from the general HN look?

Re: Ask HN: Light grey text is killing my eyes.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes; I do this to discourage people from making too many such posts, and making them too long. I don't want HN to turn into a blogging platform. Also, I wanted to make it easy to tell these posts from comments. If I made the text black I'd have to make it smaller, and then it would look just like a comment. But I'm not wedded to the current way of doing things. I'd be open to alternatives.

It seems like this system punishes me, the reader, for something that the poster did wrong. If the poster is supposed to write his long rants on his blog and then link them here, the software should tell him. It shouldn't subtly make his stuff harder for me to read, because if I'm interested, I'm going to push through the low contrast text anyway. Anyway, if you want to nurture the community, I don't think it's a bad…

Well, the lighter text does punish the original poster, indirectly. It lowers the likelihood of engagement by an audience and I like that subtle approach more than heavy-handed alert warnings. Sites that have that kind of approach feel like I'm in the principal's office and being scolded for no good reason. Subtle encouragement to do other types of behavior feels more like I'm in a hippie montessori school instead - we're not going to come down with the stick if you behave a certain way, but we're not going to give you the carrot unless you do better.
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