> Experts and witnesses attributed this phenomenon to Israel’s systematic use of internationally prohibited thermal and thermobaric weapons I guess "internationally prohibited" means nothing anymore.
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Thanks - we think of those examples and believe such degraded violence should stop. You are just ok with tit for tat.
Not at all. My argument is not that tit for tat is good, but that if we are to be serious about condemning violence, we must be willing to criticize all those who are violent, even if we may align with them politically in some fashion.
Instead there is a distinct slant on this conflict in both reporting & commenting.
When one side is violent, we are told that this is honorable resistance and that we must expand our view of the conflict further back in history, (but not too far back), to understand their actions as a response to the other side's actions (aka tit for tat, but it's good when we do it)
When the other is violent, we are told to focus solely on recent history, and to understand that there is simply no reason whatsoever for the violence except pure bloodlust.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like there’s some propaganda serving both sides. A bomb which prevents Muslim funeral rites can be psychological warfare from Israel and also a story over-emphasized from those invested in Hamas to take the focus away from something else.
Is it perhaps also possible that a bunker buster bomb that can be used to destroy tunnels from above ground ... was used to bust bunkers and destroy tunnels? Nah it's a conspiracy! Must be!
Secret message cooperation is unlikely, since one side is accusing the other of violating international humanitarian law.
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#55I bet al Jazeera won't mention that Hamas used thermite grenades to evaporate people hiding in shelters on their invasion on October 7th. Propaganda sure is a scary tool of war...
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
So could an infinite variety of motivated claims, but without a second source for it, I'd remain skeptical.
Yes, you always need more sources, that's why I don't dismiss it as propaganda. It would not be the first time that a news org lies, and it would not be the first time that the IDF lies.
> you always need more sources, that's why I don't dismiss it as propagand
What?? I will dismiss it as propaganda until I see it corroborated by a more neutral third party.
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#57> Experts and witnesses attributed this phenomenon to Israel’s systematic use of internationally prohibited thermal and thermobaric weapons I guess "internationally prohibited" means nothing anymore.
If you're busy committing genocide you're probably not too fussed about which tools you're using to do it.
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#58I bet al Jazeera won't mention that Hamas used thermite grenades to evaporate people hiding in shelters on their invasion on October 7th. Propaganda sure is a scary tool of war...
I always find it interesting that these conversations get flooded with new accounts making false equivalencies. Thermite grenades (~500g of explosive material) are not going to evaporate people like a 2000kg thermobaric weapon would. You might even say that Israel has more of an expectation of precision and reduction of civilian causalities given they have precise munitions.
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#59I bet al Jazeera won't mention that Hamas used thermite grenades to evaporate people hiding in shelters on their invasion on October 7th. Propaganda sure is a scary tool of war...
I always find it interesting that these conversations get flooded with new accounts making false equivalencies. Thermite grenades (~500g of explosive material) are not going to evaporate people like a 2000kg thermobaric weapon would. You might even say that Israel has more of an expectation of precision and reduction of civilian causalities given they have precise munitions.
It's equivalent in the results not the technical specs. In Israel they spent weeks sifting through the charred remains of the house to find at least a tooth of a child. People were gone on both sides. It's just for Palestinians most likely they are not going to get answers because it's impossible to sift trough millions of tons of earth and garbage. Germans have 2 million soldiers still MIA after 70 years of recovery efforts!