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Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance. Support for such measures (eg welfare, healthcare, unionization, redistribution etc) is usually low among Americans.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, adjust your priorities and resist more. Authoritarians win when people let them.

Plus in Nov or 2026, get out and vote, no matter how hard it is to get to the polls. This happened because people sat on their behinds and did nothing in Nov 2024,

Nah. People who sit on social media would rather stand on street corners and yell at people.

Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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I'm old enough to remember that time the Obama administration requested Edward Snowdens private SSL keys from Lavabit, because it would have opened up every email from every single user. So the owner nuked everything and was held in contempt of court. He was forbidden from talking about it for months too. Don't give too much unprecedented power to the government. It doesn't matter who the president is. They've all done some net-evil that feeds power to the next guy, and the next guy, until it's too late.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/03/lavabit-ladar-...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> They have released 2% of the epstein files 3,500,000 pages[1] have been released, including 2,000 videos and 180,000 images. If this was only "2%" of the files, you're alleging there's 175,000,000 pages of documents. Absolute nonsense. That's not even realistic. Not to mention nobody but the government knows how many pages are in "the files" - anything else you see is just made up. > Im not a conspiracy theorist at…

https://x.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/2022425434626183307?s=61

this is one example mentioning babies. There are hundreds of other pictures and emails re young girls. If you bother to look into this, you will see. you would rather feel superior nitpicking a minor detail while missing the fucking point. Good job. Heres another crumb, a tiny sliver of evidence:

https://hyperallergic.com/epstein-files-detail-gruesome-alle...

Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Basically they are issuing (administrative) subpoenas. When they go to court (at the expense of the account holder) they back down so they don't get ruled against / told to stop issuing these subpoenas. Noted in the article, when this happened in 2017 twitter denied the governments request. Now Meta, etc are rolling over for the government.

I hope courts find a way and the spine to tell them they're not valid. The government usually has a strong presumption of regularity but more and more courts are recognizing they're no longer a fair participant and will abuse the courts to get their way and are dropping that presumption.

Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance. Support for such measures (eg welfare, healthcare, unionization, redistribution etc) is usually low among Americans.

I would counter that a majority of Americans are actually in favor of these things, but our supreme court has been corrupted by billionaires and is stymying any real progress along these lines. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/12/10/most-amer...

Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Basically they are issuing (administrative) subpoenas. When they go to court (at the expense of the account holder) they back down so they don't get ruled against / told to stop issuing these subpoenas. Noted in the article, when this happened in 2017 twitter denied the governments request. Now Meta, etc are rolling over for the government.

I hope courts find a way and the spine to tell them they're not valid. The government usually has a strong presumption of regularity but more and more courts are recognizing they're no longer a fair participant and will abuse the courts to get their way and are dropping that presumption.

> I hope courts find a way and the spine to tell them they're not valid.

I hope courts go further and find them in contempt, or engaging in something akin to barratry, or otherwise abusing the legal system.

Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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I'm old enough to remember that time the Obama administration requested Edward Snowdens private SSL keys from Lavabit, because it would have opened up every email from every single user. So the owner nuked everything and was held in contempt of court. He was forbidden from talking about it for months too. Don't give too much unprecedented power to the government. It doesn't matter who the president is. They've all do…

Edward Snowden had stolen the most sensitive classified secrets from The United States Intelligence Community and Donald Trump is looking to squash dissent of his attempts to nullify the Constitution and establish a dictatorship.

I get what you're saying, but please have some perspective. the two things are not even remotely similar.

Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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post #56

Basically they are issuing (administrative) subpoenas. When they go to court (at the expense of the account holder) they back down so they don't get ruled against / told to stop issuing these subpoenas. Noted in the article, when this happened in 2017 twitter denied the governments request. Now Meta, etc are rolling over for the government.

I hope courts find a way and the spine to tell them they're not valid. The government usually has a strong presumption of regularity but more and more courts are recognizing they're no longer a fair participant and will abuse the courts to get their way and are dropping that presumption.

Good faith by the federal government can no longer be assumed.

Donald Trump's real legacy is not any single action, but a complete inversion of trust of the US government by its citizens.

And the world.

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