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Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by randomNumber7 »

ahhhhnoooo wrote: post #109
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #78

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It's a phone. Put it in the trash. You will not go through physiological withdrawal symptoms. The amount of people in here right now clamoring for legislation to keep them away from electronics which they themselves purchased is mind-bogglingly insane.

Oooooof. Can I recommend you spend some time developing some empathy? The world is complicated. People's lives are complicated (and often meditated by their phones). People's emotional and social wellbeing is complicated, and simply ghosting all your social groups on a random Tuesday is likely to cause significant problems.

It's already annoying to buy drugs just because some % of people get too addicted. Now you also want to forbid doomscrolling?

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by andybak »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #150
jjcm wrote: post #64

Here's the actual statement from the European Comission: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_... It's important to note they aren't creating laws against infinite scrolling , but are ruling against addictive design and pointing to infinite scrolling as an example of it. The wording here is fascinating, mainly because they're effectively acting as arbiters of "vibes". They point to certain feat…

Life is complex and beautiful and trying to regulate every possible outcome beforehand just makes it boring and depressing.

But how do you stop the boring and depressing - and abusive and manipulative parts?

I'm not saying legislation is a good solution but you seem to be making a poetic plea that benefits the abusers.

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by RiverCrochet »

danny_codes wrote: post #148
RiverCrochet wrote: post #128

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Imagine a society that had rules on the designs of haircuts, and punishments to enforce those rules.

Except people aren’t addicted to haircuts and presumably don’t spend 8 hours a day staring at their hair in the mirror.

I should be able to stare at my phone 8 hours a day without government interference if I want to. No one is holding me at gunpoint. It's my phone and it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by happytoexplain »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #161
ahhhhnoooo wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oooooof. Can I recommend you spend some time developing some empathy? The world is complicated. People's lives are complicated (and often meditated by their phones). People's emotional and social wellbeing is complicated, and simply ghosting all your social groups on a random Tuesday is likely to cause significant problems.

It's already annoying to buy drugs just because some % of people get too addicted. Now you also want to forbid doomscrolling?

Yes. To be clear, the implication of this comment is that you would like to deregulate addictive drugs...?

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by torlok »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #150
jjcm wrote: post #64

Here's the actual statement from the European Comission: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_... It's important to note they aren't creating laws against infinite scrolling , but are ruling against addictive design and pointing to infinite scrolling as an example of it. The wording here is fascinating, mainly because they're effectively acting as arbiters of "vibes". They point to certain feat…

Life is complex and beautiful and trying to regulate every possible outcome beforehand just makes it boring and depressing.

We should just let people with overwhelming amounts of money research and fund new ways to trick people's lizard brains into giving them even more money.

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by happytoexplain »

chickensong wrote: post #144
ahhhhnoooo wrote: post #111

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For many people, it is unrealistic to uninstall Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, Reddit, Instagram, Bluesky, whatever the fuck else all at the same time. I'm proud of you that you are as disconnected as you are. I'm the same -- ditched my addictive social media accounts back in like 2011 -- but not everyone is like us.

> but not everyone is like us There will never be anything close to uniformity, so we must decide if we cripple freedom to protect the weak while increasing bureaucracy and authoritarianism, or allow natural selection to take its course while improving treatment of symptoms. I'm empathetic to the struggle of addiction, which is a real and terrible thing, but I don't think we should create vague nanny laws as a soluti…

>cripple freedom to protect the weak

This is an exaggeration intended to provoke.

>allow natural selection to take its course

This is hideous.

>I'm empathetic to the struggle of addiction

You are very strongly implying that this is untrue.

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by sensanaty »

rpdillon wrote: post #116
rendx wrote: post #83

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"Strictly necessary cookies — These cookies are essential for you to browse the website and use its features, such as accessing secure areas of the site. Cookies that allow web shops to hold your items in your cart while you are shopping online are an example of strictly necessary cookies. These cookies will generally be first-party session cookies. While it is not required to obtain consent for these cookies, what t…

Right, and then the legal teams tell me they don't care, and we should put up the cookie banner anyway. I feel like you didn't read my original comment.

That just means your legal team is lazy or incompetent. I work for a massive company that handles extremely sensitive PII and we don't have a cookie banner, because we don't need to have a cookie banner. GitHub doesn't have one, Gitlab doesn't have one.

Re: The EU moves to kill infinite scrolling

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Post by Izkata »

sensanaty wrote: post #156
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #101

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> Dude, it's 2025. Actually, it's 2026 and has been for six weeks. > A few years ago, I accidentally left my phone at home when I went to work, and when I arrived I found that because I no longer had my 2FA device, I couldn't do any work until I went home again and picked it up. Sounds like a personal problem. There are many other 2FA authenticators available. Yubikey, TOTP tokens, smart cards, etc. Using a smartphon…

We were literally not given the choice in the matter, in the case of $JOB. Plenty of people complained about having to use their phones to access the buildings, but that was the policy. I suspect the next thing you're going to say is along the lines of "then just switch jobs", though.

> I suspect the next thing you're going to say is along the lines of "then just switch jobs", though.

I mean even that might not work out. We just switched to MS Teams last year and Microsoft uses a push-based app, not TOTP or other offline keys like we'd used before. And Teams just seems to be getting more popular...

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