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Re: Ask HN: Is there a no-LLM license yet?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If content with that license reaches critical mass, a law firm could sue for many at once.

Do you believe this critical mass would likely exceed all books ever published within the current copyright window? Do you think book publishers are somehow less financially able to muster a legal response than open source coders in their spare time?

Books don't have an explicit no-LLM license.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a no-LLM license yet?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> depending on your goals is the important bit. Is your goal to have your project used by companies which have to "run things through legal", or do you have better goals?

Not just companies, people too. It will have trouble getting into Linux distro repos. And a lot of devs/users avoid non-open-source projects especially if they went looking for solutions on Github.

The distro repos is a good point and the user went looking for permissionless GitHub projects is even better

Re: Ask HN: Is there a no-LLM license yet?

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you believe this critical mass would likely exceed all books ever published within the current copyright window? Do you think book publishers are somehow less financially able to muster a legal response than open source coders in their spare time?

Books don't have an explicit no-LLM license.

They have a very explicit "No unauthorized copies or transfer to other media" and they still got shafted.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a no-LLM license yet?

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Would this even work legally? I remember the case of books used for training, where the court found training to be fair use, but the material has to be legally obtained (=Bought instead of pirated the books). > and usage on it What do you mean by "usage on it"?

I think you nailed it here. What you are "licensing" with your license is copyright. But if training is fair use, copyright doesn't apply, so there is no need for a license.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a no-LLM license yet?

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Could we take this idea further and design a new programming language in which all LLM training would be prohibited? Any LLM capable of producing code for this language will have effectively violated this license... and incidentally, it will create a language where the joy of coding will remain :)
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