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We get it, you don't like liquid glass, neither do I. But the source is available and there are alternatives to both MacOS and netnewswire.
No, you don't get it, otherwise you wouldn't repeat/add irrelevant points to a thread filled with them
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It makes sense. Like you said, previous versions used the macOS design language at the time, and the current version does the same. The developer has chosen to no longer support older versions of macOS, they aren't required to. The old app still works, and anyone else can work on it if they want. > you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due t…
> You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15. You forgot to address the point, which was about distribution, not creation The previous paragraph is similarly irrelevant, for example, "aren't required to" - who said anything about requirements??
You don't like some of the Liquid Glass stuff... fine, make something else. The old versions still work, I don't really know what you are complaining about. This level of support and polish in a free app is amazing.
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> You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15. You forgot to address the point, which was about distribution, not creation The previous paragraph is similarly irrelevant, for example, "aren't required to" - who said anything about requirements??
You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed. You don't like some of the Liquid Glass stuff... fine, make something else. The old versions still work , I don't really know what you are complaining about. This level of support and polish in a free app is amazing.
It is needed, you can't install a custom app permanently on iOS. By the way, what if you only have iOS and not a Mac? How would you compile your backport?
> The old versions still work
I've already addressed it, come back with something meaningful rather than repeat
> I don't really know what you are complaining about.
I've explained it to you several times, maybe you can get that knowledge by reading the conversation carefully?
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You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed. You don't like some of the Liquid Glass stuff... fine, make something else. The old versions still work , I don't really know what you are complaining about. This level of support and polish in a free app is amazing.
> You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed. It is needed, you can't install a custom app permanently on iOS. By the way, what if you only have iOS and not a Mac? How would you compile your backport? > The old versions still work I've already addressed it, come back with something meaningful rather than repeat > I don't really know what…
Old versions work still, you can create your own. The app has had lengthy and good support — which you can extend if you choose.
I love the philosophy page: https://netnewswire.com/philosophy.html """ We believe that apps should never crash. They should be free of bugs. They should be fast — they should feel lighter-than-air. We believe that quality is more important than just piling on features; we believe that quality is the most important feature. And we believe that high quality is transformative — it makes for an app you never hesitate to…
Their new version 7 implements the lower quality design of liquid glass while also blocking all ios versions below the latest (so you can't get bug fixes and slow features with the better design). How does that fit the philosophy?
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/BundleResources/In...
> Temporarily use this key while reviewing and refining your app’s UI for the design in the latest SDKs
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Their new version 7 implements the lower quality design of liquid glass while also blocking all ios versions below the latest (so you can't get bug fixes and slow features with the better design). How does that fit the philosophy?
Sooner or later, they needed to adopt the Liquid Glass design. While Apple allows developers to temporarily add the UIDesignRequiresCompatibility flag to disable Liquid Glass in current iOS version, they are very clear that that flag is temporary and will go away next version. So they had to adopt it either now or next year even if they didn't want it. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/BundleResources/In... >…
Or don't use the latest SDK and don't be forced "next year", but continue for many more years. Also "later" is definitely better in such cases because there is some change the design will be improved. Either way, there is no good reason to rush to be worse and cut off users if you proclaim you're into quality
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Well I think the iOS version is better! I don't like Liquid Glass on Mac though.
Ok, to get back to the original point: does making one of your platforms worse jibe with the quality philosophy?
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Ok, to get back to the original point: does making one of your platforms worse jibe with the quality philosophy?
Yes, because it means that as Liquid Glass improves with Alan Dye out the door, NNW will automatically benefit from the improvements. Having an app that just follows the current standard native platform conventions is better for users and leads to apps that behave in a predicable way.