I wonder to what extent 4/4o is the culprit, vs it simply being the default model when many of these people were forming their "relationships."
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#12It appears that only the 4o text interface has been removed.
Advanced Voice Mode is still branded as 4o, although it has been gradually evolving over the past few months.
I suspect that voice mode is what most users are actually attached to.
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#13How is this specific to 4o? This can happen with any model. See how people acted after Character.AI essentially removed their AI "partners" after a server reset. They actually used DeepSeek before which didn't have the same limitations as American models, especially being open weight means you can fine tune it to be as lovey dovey as your heart desires.
From the subreddit I linked in another comment, there did seem to be some "magic" that 4o had for these kinds of "relationships". I'm not sure how much of it is placebo, but there does seem to be a strong preference in that user group.
It probably is placebo. Character AI for example used DeepSeek and I'm sure many grew attachments to that model. Ultimately though I don't even get it, models lose context very quickly so it's hard to have long running conversations with them, as well as talking very sycophanticly to you. I guess this is fixed due to implementing a good harness and memories, which is what these companies did I assume.
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#14Life reads a lot like satire now.
Loving AI bots. Killing yourself based on what an AI bot says.
Its hard to believe any of this is real or should be.
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#15How is this specific to 4o? This can happen with any model. See how people acted after Character.AI essentially removed their AI "partners" after a server reset. They actually used DeepSeek before which didn't have the same limitations as American models, especially being open weight means you can fine tune it to be as lovey dovey as your heart desires.
One version of 4o was so sycophantic that it had to be rolled back, so there is some evidence that 4o specifically has a problem with this.
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#16Here's the related subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/
I don’t have any evidence but I always get a strong suspicion that a very large % of what happens on this subreddit is fake. I don’t know what the exact motives are, but just something about it isn’t right to me.
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#17How is this specific to 4o? This can happen with any model. See how people acted after Character.AI essentially removed their AI "partners" after a server reset. They actually used DeepSeek before which didn't have the same limitations as American models, especially being open weight means you can fine tune it to be as lovey dovey as your heart desires.
After 4o they put in more safeguard reactions to the user attempting the kind of (lets be generous here) romantic roleplay that got a lot of people really invested in their AI "friends/partners".
ex: https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/comments/1qx3jux/wh...
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#18Her was prescient, it just underestimated how quickly its dystopia would arrive.
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#19I wonder how much of this is actually commentary on how easy it is to chat with AI whenever you want, how much of it is commentary on how hard it can be to both be sociable and to also succeed socially and make friends, and what it might mean that an AI is more attractive and easier to “befriend” or “be in a relationship with” than an actual person, both in regards to the qualities of the AI and those of the people it outperforms.
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#20Computing has made intimate sexual relationships worse. Dating apps are skewed: men receive little attention while women have an overwhelming amount of attention. Porn satisfies our most base sexual functions while abandoning truly intimate connections. The ultimate goal of sexual unions has been demonized and turned into something to avoid. That being children. After school specials since the 80s have made pregnancy…
> Dating apps are skewed: men receive little attention while women have an overwhelming amount of attention.
I'm not following your train of thought here. Why is this the fault of computing?