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Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Post by buellerbueller »

eulers_secret wrote: post #215
nindalf wrote: post #155

This news article boils down to "a few people on reddit did something", which is interesting. But we know reddit and HN are definitely not mainstream. Is this hurting Amazon? No, it is not. As long as they're honouring return requests freely, you know that the number of returns is within their accepted levels of distressed inventory. If it's getting into uncomfortable territory, they'll start rate limiting people by…

It’s interesting how internet backlashes can be large enough to move the needle: ring breaking with flock is evidence of this. Yet simultaneously the internet represents the opinions of a very small and vocal minority. I’ve never seen an internet boycott have an impact.

>It’s interesting how internet backlashes can be large enough to move the needle:

Brexit.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Post by kyralis »

joshstrange wrote: post #145
doom2 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use now?

I’m in the process of moving to a new house where I’m going to go all-in on Ubiquiti equipment. I don’t have it set up yet (house is being built now) but I’ve started buying the equipment and I had Ethernet run to the places where I’ll put cameras. Same concept though, local NVR, remote access via WireGuard.

This is the setup I have, and it's been very good. I also live in a rural location, though- my cameras do not show anything that is not on my property, so I don't have the same concerns about randomly filming strangers just walking past.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Post by imperio59 »

ViktorRay wrote: post #213
zetanor wrote: post #169

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I'd agree on /r/FlockSurveillance/ specifically, but if Reddit itself does not qualify as "mainstream", then what does? Just FANG?

Reddit is filled with very vocal terminally online people. Their views and actions are not representative of normal human beings.

Its top 100 or so subreddits are moderated by the same ~10 or so individuals who impose their ideological views on the subs and delete posts or ban anyone who dares challenge them.

A great example of how community moderation inevitably slides a platform to one side or the other of the political spectrum.

I honestly don't think mods on reddit should be allowed to moderate more than 1 or 2 of these top sub-reddits, this would at least force some semblance of diversity of thought on the platform.

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Post by reaperducer »

mosburger wrote: post #194
ChoGGi wrote: post #174

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My garage was broken into twice within three years, cameras up two years ago, and nothing yet. I may also have a nice rock for sale, we'll see how it goes.

Yeah - I think it still a bit of a deterrent ... today, not everyone has a camera, and if I were a thief and one house had cameras while the place next door did not, guess which one I'm gonna rob? But I wonder how much of that will wear off once everybody has one.

if I were a thief and one house had cameras while the place next door did not, guess which one I'm gonna rob?

But we're talking about doorbell cameras here, not giant boxes in the sky with flashing strobe lights on them.

A thief doesn't know if there's a doorbell camera on a particular home until they're already on the porch and recorded.

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Post by master-lincoln »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #131
ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #108

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I'm walking on the pavement. And yes, it is illegal to point cameras at public spaces in my country (Denmark), but the law is not really enforced.

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Whataboutism. Parent referred to that specific law for public filming not being enforced.

Also what would one case of a law being followed like in your shared article mean? Nothing. I thus assume you are acting in bad faith.

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Post by marcosdumay »

UltraSane wrote: post #27
ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #9

Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

The world is going to be filled with millions of cameras using AI to analyze the video in real time.

Unless the world becomes full of people that vandalize cameras on short notice, or countries that criminalize those cameras.

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Post by AlexandrB »

hi-jinx5678 wrote: post #190
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #164

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>The power of a few seconds of video is why TikTok had to be brought under control Didn't USA's current regime take over TikTok in order to use it for propaganda? Twitter-X was used so successfully that they're expanding their psyops.

no, israel demanded the tiktok thing due to the backlash they are recieving for genocide and ethnic cleansing. their faithful servants in america simply did as their master commanded.

"From the river to the sea" is a literal call for Israel to be ethnically cleansed. Both sides want to kill each other very badly, only one side has the capability at the moment.

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Post by bee_rider »

imperio59 wrote: post #220
eulers_secret wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s interesting how internet backlashes can be large enough to move the needle: ring breaking with flock is evidence of this. Yet simultaneously the internet represents the opinions of a very small and vocal minority. I’ve never seen an internet boycott have an impact.

Bud Light's stock performance last year would like to have a word with you.

What would it say?

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Post by nindalf »

zetanor wrote: post #169
nindalf wrote: post #155

This news article boils down to "a few people on reddit did something", which is interesting. But we know reddit and HN are definitely not mainstream. Is this hurting Amazon? No, it is not. As long as they're honouring return requests freely, you know that the number of returns is within their accepted levels of distressed inventory. If it's getting into uncomfortable territory, they'll start rate limiting people by…

I'd agree on /r/FlockSurveillance/ specifically, but if Reddit itself does not qualify as "mainstream", then what does? Just FANG?

You've identified the problem. It's never "reddit", it's a specific subreddit. It really depends on the size of the subreddit. Smaller subreddits can easily get riled up, and also create a sealed echo chamber by banning people left and right. But I wouldn't worry about a sub unless it was really big.

For example: I'd say HBO should worry about what the game of thrones related subs are saying about their latest show (which is good, shoutout) but only as a vibe check. The normies will always outnumber the kind of people who go to a subreddit to discuss their favourite show. Normal people just watch and forget.

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Post by bee_rider »

dathinab wrote: post #218
Forgeties79 wrote: post #173

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Roughly 6x the users and 7x the traffic. “Thousands” is a bit dramatic. Reddit is a massively popular site now, pretty sure it’s among the top 10 most visited in the world.

at most most in the US and also because many modern platforms are app focused and don't care about web traffic and Reddit is a huge target for scrapping int the US so traffic numbers of recent few years have become a meaningless metric Outside the US Reddit is often far less relevant then in the US, still somewhat relevant in many "western" countries but often far far less then in the US (like e.g. where I live no on…

If Reddit is an ok representation of semi-techy/nerdy Americans it is probably(?) a good representation of Ring Doorbell customers, right?
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