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Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by jihadjihad »

hosteur wrote: post #311
anschwa wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

I tried this on most recent MacOS 26 - it does not work here. Might it be because I have Rectangle installed?

Same, tried with and without Rectangle running and haven't seen it work yet. Must be missing something obvious.

edit: I ended up trying Easy Move+Resize which is mentioned in a sibling comment, can recommend, works as advertised.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by jraph »

sgt wrote: post #337
olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

Sorry but you clearly haven't used macOS. Linux on the desktop is still about 15 years behind, and I tried it recently. It's such an inconsistent experience it's almost hilarious. Speaking as a Tahoe user by the way who is not experiencing any issues to speak of (on 26.0.1 - and I can't reproduce the resizing inconsistency either). I've been using macOS since 2003 (back when it was called Mac OS X) and before that I…

Inconsistent experience maybe, but does this inconsistency really get in the way of actual work?

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by delaminator »

pjmlp wrote: post #300
delaminator wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use i3-wm I never resize a window with its border. I never minimize a weindow. I sometimes move a window to a different panel but it snaps to the width / height of the column. Overlapping windows is perhaps the worst GUI paradigm - it's like the first thing someone thought of for 640 x 480 screens. Let it go.

Tiling window managers used to be a thing in the old days, they predate the invention of overlapping windows, there is a reason it is only a minority that reaches out to them nowadays.

Not in a GUI though. Sun Windows was overlapping, GEM was overlapping and almost everything else since then.

I'm on a 5120x2160 monitor and tiling is super perfect.

Can't recommend it enough.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by doodpants »

amelius wrote: post #328
olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

The main problem is that Apple wants to be opinionated. Linux is the polar opposite of that. People used to say the latter is bad, but it turns out the former is way worse (many hackers of course already knew this). > Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either. But at this point grandma and grandpa are the only ones I'd recommend to use Apple devices.

Opinionated design was great back when Apple's Human Interface Guidelines were based on concrete user testing and accessibility principles. The farther we get from the Steve Jobs era, the more their UI design is based on whatever they think looks pretty, with usability concerns taking a back seat.

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Post by Munky-Necan »

readme wrote: post #338
olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

Even gnome tries to be too modern imo. KDE is perfect. I used to feel like KDE was too much like a toy. Now by comparison it looks utilitarian.

I've been using KDE for a decade and I completely agree. It used to be only better than GNOME because I could remove features from it and now I run completely stock KDE and it's solid compared to anything else.

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Post by russellbeattie »

olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

> "...while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better"

These projects have been around for literally decades and really haven't changed much during that time. I think what you're noticing is that Linux desktops are as good as they always have been, but since Apple and Microsoft keep messing with theirs for marketing reasons, in comparison it seems that Linux GUIs are improving.

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Post by jraph »

hs86 wrote: post #325
olivierestsage wrote: post #297

It really has gotten to the point where Linux offers the best option for a sane desktop experience. Watching Windows and macOS implode while KDE and Gnome slowly get better and better has really been something. Not quite at the point I'd recommend them for grandma and grandpa, but not that far off, either.

In the past few years, I’ve started to develop a form of “upgrade dread” when it comes to OS upgrades. What are they going to enshittify now? What are they going to drop support for now? This somehow excluded Linux and its DEs, and I eagerly read any news, changelogs, and announcements in this space. They’re still not perfect in every aspect, but at least I see things improving instead of public turf wars between dep…

> I’ve started to develop a form of “upgrade dread” when it comes to OS upgrades.

I've been going the other way on Linux.

I used to think it might be wise to postpone updates if you were traveling, especially using a rolling distro. Today, I would be quite confident running the updates 10 minutes before leaving.

Granted, this is also because I'm more confident than ever that I could fix most breakages, and worst case the smartphone is there, but I've also not seen big breakages for years.

Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by jihadjihad »

anschwa wrote: post #136
ivanjermakov wrote: post #31

Since the first taste of Linux WMs, I believe the best and only good way of handling window move and resize is super+lmb/rmb respectively. No more pixel-perfect header/corner sniping! https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qv0vmz/missing_supe...

On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

I think it was a mistake for Apple to put some of the best QOL, not just accessibility, enhancements behind the Accessibility section of the Settings, rather than on the Trackpad settings. Three finger drag is a game changer, and a lot of my colleagues had no idea it existed.

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Post by avidphantasm »

loeber wrote: post #160
anschwa wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

MacOS is the "it just works" operating system. As such, I think the moment that you need to declare custom workarounds like this, it kind of loses its legitimacy, and you should already be in Linux land.

I kind of agree with you, but on macOS I still don’t have to ever think about drivers. The hardware just works. Linux isn’t quite there yet. My work XPS laptop running Ubuntu is close, but not quite the same.
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