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Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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post #86

Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

> like I'm being watched. Working as intended? It’s a wireless CCTV.

Like they're being watched by every data broker customer on the planet, not their neighbor.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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post #21
post #4

Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

It is very simple, most regular people don't read random blogs, however they do watch Superbowl. This is to be studied by geeks, how to approach non-technical audiences.

Classic blind sighted tech view is that p50 people behave as p99 people.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#103

Any good alternatives? Preferably one that stores images on a local docker instance running within my network.

Reolink Doorbell PoE, deny it access to the cloud if you want from the router, works well over LAN and can periodically FTP recordings anywhere you want on your local network, plus it has some really nice HomeAssistant integrations (last movement, last animal, last person, last doorbell)

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't have to be. Here in the Netherlands it's actually illegal to (permanently) film public space, and people can and will point that out to any offenders.

Same in Germany. Putting something like a Ring camera up is a big no-no.

They are everywhere. Knowing the old “Germany is the land of privacy” I was shocked to walk about in many neighborhoods, from pretty run down to affluent, and see Ring, Nest, Arlo, all cloud connected cameras hanging over doors but turned more towards the public road in front of the house.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#105
post #4

Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

Am I missing something? I thought it was not the ad itself, but rather the combination with the reporting on that Guthrie abduction, which claimed that although there was no subscription to the recording service, the video data was still recovered, i.e., recorded and sent to Google servers. Regardless of how you see it, although the ad was a kind of manipulative reframing of surveillance infrastructure by using pets…

This kind of story has been in the news cycle every few weeks for years. The ad is what's new.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#106
In related news, there's a recent scandal in Bulgaria that involves leaked footage from beauty salons and gynecological office appearing on porn sites.

What could go wrong by installing cheap cameras in such places?

https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/04/bulgaria-probes-secret-f...

https://www.ocnal.com/2026/02/bulgaria-launches-criminal-pro...

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#107
post #86

Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

> like I'm being watched. Working as intended? It’s a wireless CCTV.

Being recorded while on public property is not illegal in many jurisdictions, but it's certainly iffy and should not be normalized. Any cameras should be directed so that they're exclusively aimed at your own property.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#108
post #86

Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

> like I'm being watched. Working as intended? It’s a wireless CCTV.

I'm walking on the pavement. And yes, it is illegal to point cameras at public spaces in my country (Denmark), but the law is not really enforced.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#109
post #42

I predict 100 returns in total and then everybody forgets about this in a week. I'm not cheering for this outcome but it's the sad reality.

In their defense, Redditors returning a throwaway piece of electronics then posting about it is probably the biggest sense of accomplishment they'll get all month. It takes a special level of delusion to think you're pulling one over on the billion-dollar company who just paid millions to advertise this capability during the Super Bowl as if everyone didn't already know. Hasn't Ring been sharing video with law enforc…

> special level of delusion to think you're pulling one over on the billion-dollar company

Except that’s not the only reason to participate in such a boycott. Perhaps they simply do not want to participate in one voluntary node of participation in the surveillance capitalism network.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#110
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called 'setting an example'. One might disagree with value of the example being set, but I'm not sure I would characterize his choices as in any way convenient for him.

They he should do without. Live like the Amish in 2026 (though I assume they have phones now). It's not setting an example. We have a word for it and it's called being a mooch. The attitude is consistent with that famous video where RMS explains that he's "never installed GNU/Linux" because he could just ask someone else to do it for him, and suggest others should do the same. For that matter, why own a car if we can…

First people call him "outside the boundaries of reality" then demand he lives like Amish... Look who is removed from reality now. How would he even work for the FSF's goals, if he were to follow silly advice like that? Apparently, whatever he does, he can't do right by every naysayer's standards. What many people miss is, that even Stallman admits, that you don't have to go cold turkey free/libre only, but it is already a step in the right direction to do what you can, accepting an inconvenience in exchange. Many people will rather bury their head in the sand than to accept any inconvenience at all.
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