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Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

It is very simple, most regular people don't read random blogs, however they do watch Superbowl.

This is to be studied by geeks, how to approach non-technical audiences.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#22

American surveillance is one thing. All over Europe people install Chinese IP cameras mostly from paranoic and imaginary reasons. Camera literally facing neighbour's windows and doors and their neighbour's own camera. Nobody understands that it's economically impossible to sell IP camera with a mobile app and cloud storage of video for 150 EUR. Their business model is not simply selling cameras. EDIT. I'm really conf…

All over Europe is generalisation. At least in France, Germany, Switzerland it is too much pain and paperwork to get any camera installed. If you are worried about chinese then seriously you cannot live.

In theory, in practice you can get a random one bought from Temu, and unless some neighbour calls in the authorities, no one will know.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Norway, and I assume in much of Europe, it's actually illegal. But that hasn't stopped anyone. The (little) discussion there's been on the topic has mostly centered around car sentry cams, which is very similar in nature. Sadly, the only state authority that seems to care is so underfunded that they can barely cover a fraction of these cases. And there's (rightfully) very little appetite for them to go after…

Once something illegal is culturally accepted it’s very difficult to remove, it requires a cultural shift. It’s against the law to post cctv onto things like Facebook in the U.K. but people donor all the time. Early on the law could have banned cloud cameras but it’s too late now, far too many people like to answer front their phones. So glad I no ln get deliver pizzas.

> Once something illegal is culturally accepted it’s very difficult to remove, it requires a cultural shift.

I agree. And that's sensible. We don't want the law and culture to diverge too much. The former is meant to serve the latter.

But I do still think it would be possible to start going after the suppliers of the services.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#24

American surveillance is one thing. All over Europe people install Chinese IP cameras mostly from paranoic and imaginary reasons. Camera literally facing neighbour's windows and doors and their neighbour's own camera. Nobody understands that it's economically impossible to sell IP camera with a mobile app and cloud storage of video for 150 EUR. Their business model is not simply selling cameras. EDIT. I'm really conf…

Where is this comment coming from? Why Europe? Are those cameras not used in other places? Are they specifically made for Europe? Are there sources? Or is this just a fantasy story?

The usual anti-Europe narrative that is starting to be so common over here.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#26
post #4

Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

What happened?

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#27

Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

The world is going to be filled with millions of cameras using AI to analyze the video in real time.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is this comment coming from? Why Europe? Are those cameras not used in other places? Are they specifically made for Europe? Are there sources? Or is this just a fantasy story?

The usual anti-Europe narrative that is starting to be so common over here.

Weirdly yes. But why is formulated that you can tell it's an American writing text only an American could believe from the first words.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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post #21
post #4

Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

It is very simple, most regular people don't read random blogs, however they do watch Superbowl. This is to be studied by geeks, how to approach non-technical audiences.

By buying a superbowl ad?

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

#30
post #26
post #4

Funny how a single superbowl ad from Ring themselves was able to do in one weekend what a thousand and one anti Ring bloggers were unable to do for the past 10 years straight. This commercial and the response will probably be studied in marketing classes.

What happened?

The ad https://youtu.be/OheUzrXsKrY?si=oHH1hBRIYjNNgPZT
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