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Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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How is Anthropic, OpenAI and xAi going to compete against the likes of Google that can spend $200 billion a year? It’s an impossible war and all these investors are throwing their money into a bottomless insatiable pit of money. Until the funding stops for one reason or another and then everyone loses all their money at once like a star that collapses into a black hole singularity in a femtosecond.

The same way that Google+ never overtook Facebook

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google fucks up 90% of their products, why do you think Gemini is in the 10%?

well, it's basically existential, so the incentive is there to not only get it very right but also to limit the delta with how right anyone else gets it. The same can't really be said of the long tail of products Google have done. Look to GCP as an example. It had to be done, with similar competitive dynamics, it was done very well. Look to Android as another.

> well, it's basically existential, so the incentive is there to not only get it very right but also to limit the delta with how right anyone else gets it. The same can't really be said of the long tail of products Google have done.

I've yet to see anything that threatens Google's ad monopoly.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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it's crazy that Google is spending something like 4x this in a year just for capex wonder how much of that $30B will make it their way and pay that down

has me wondering if Anthropic is one of those confidential TPU buyers

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Next year 140 billion the following year 1.4 trillion, 14 trillion the year after that?

Better be otherwise it’s a 27+ year wait for breakeven!

27 year PE ratio is a value stock at this point

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

#165

I wonder how good it is for companies to be allowed to grow so big and still be private? Would it makes sense to require any company with more than a billion dollar valuation to be subject to all the same SEC requirements that public companies are? Could companies be blocked from raising money once the reach a crazy valuation like $1 billion?

That doesn’t make sense at all. The raison d’être of SEC is to protect regular mom-and-pop investors. A private company just doesn’t allow anyone to invest in them. Why should SEC rules apply? On what legal basis can you force a private company to divulge its financial details? Would you be happy if you, as an individual, have to divulge your account statements if your own net wealth reaches one million?

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

#166

How is Anthropic, OpenAI and xAi going to compete against the likes of Google that can spend $200 billion a year? It’s an impossible war and all these investors are throwing their money into a bottomless insatiable pit of money. Until the funding stops for one reason or another and then everyone loses all their money at once like a star that collapses into a black hole singularity in a femtosecond.

Google fucks up 90% of their products, why do you think Gemini is in the 10%?

Persistence. Google has a lot more endurance then OpenAI does in this game.

The current AI market is going to destroy anyone who's specialized into it compared to having alternative revenue streams to subsidize it.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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I wonder how good it is for companies to be allowed to grow so big and still be private? Would it makes sense to require any company with more than a billion dollar valuation to be subject to all the same SEC requirements that public companies are? Could companies be blocked from raising money once the reach a crazy valuation like $1 billion?

That doesn’t make sense at all. The raison d’être of SEC is to protect regular mom-and-pop investors. A private company just doesn’t allow anyone to invest in them. Why should SEC rules apply? On what legal basis can you force a private company to divulge its financial details? Would you be happy if you, as an individual, have to divulge your account statements if your own net wealth reaches one million?

yeah it's a slippery slope forcing companies to go public at X valuation. who decides that? what number makes sense? etc. but i do think we need to somehow fix massively overpriced companies going public and dumping on retail

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Kind of amusing that there is basically no mention of their original mission at all here.

Anthropic has one of the best moats of any business that's been created in the last 50 years.

Numerous companies have tried and failed competing with SoTA foundational models. If Anthropic had no moat, Apple and Meta wouldn't be paying them billions for coding asistance.

Meta, Amazon, Apple, and Nvidia would all have SoTA competitors to Claude. They all tried and have not produced a competitor.

Instead you have three companies that stand alone making billions from foundational models.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Google has the money to build 10 different versions/iterations of Gemini and can essentially force one to work. They have most people's data and most people use them for mail/search/browser/maps as well. In my opinion though this is a race to the bottom rather than a winner takes all situation so I don't think anyone is coming out ahead once the dust settles.

Google built ten different chat products, how did that go?

Does it matter? Microsoft won by default with Teams because it actually turns out no one cares about chat or even has a choice in it: employees use whatever the company picks.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

#170

How is Anthropic, OpenAI and xAi going to compete against the likes of Google that can spend $200 billion a year? It’s an impossible war and all these investors are throwing their money into a bottomless insatiable pit of money. Until the funding stops for one reason or another and then everyone loses all their money at once like a star that collapses into a black hole singularity in a femtosecond.

The most efficient way Google could spend that money is probably to buy a company and not poke at it too much. I have no confidence that large rich companies can actually innovate beyond buying small innovators or spawning business units and not poking at them much.
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