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Windows 8 Arrives

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Re: Windows 8 Arrives

#11

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Have you tried it?

I have. The interface is freaking unusable. It is like Microsoft decided to exit the desktop market with a bang. "We are failing, and we are taking Windows with us".

There is no way out of the "metro" interface?

Clarification:

I assumed el_cuadrado was refering to metro being "unusable".

Is that true?

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Exacerbating this is the fact that Windows 7 is arguably at full stride right now and has almost no points that I really want changed. Why then do I give myself (actually, pay for) a headache with this new release?

>> Exacerbating this is the fact that Windows 7 is arguably at full stride right now and has almost no points that I really want changed. Sounds like another anti-innovation/change comment on hn. If this is not, please tell me how?

How is changing the desktop we currently have, which works for most people and everyone is used to, for a completely new system that is clearly meant for a device other than the PC, innovation?

Change != always good.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried it?

I have. The interface is freaking unusable. It is like Microsoft decided to exit the desktop market with a bang. "We are failing, and we are taking Windows with us".

To each his own I guess, the only time I ever use the Metro UI is when I'm searching for something, which usually consists of hitting the start button, searching "Chrome" (for google chrome) and then hitting enter. Any other time that I've used the interface it was just for development or testing. How often do you see yourself using it?

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Exacerbating this is the fact that Windows 7 is arguably at full stride right now and has almost no points that I really want changed. Sounds like another anti-innovation/change comment on hn. If this is not, please tell me how?

How is changing the desktop we currently have, which works for most people and everyone is used to, for a completely new system that is clearly meant for a device other than the PC, innovation? Change != always good.

I think he was just pointing out that Hacker News can be somewhat schizophrenic on this topic. "WTF why won't Craigslist improve, it is anti-innovation" vs. "Why did MS change their UI?!?"

And yes, before someone makes the statement, HN is made up of individuals with their own opinions etc. etc.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

#15
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Windows 8 Pro upgrade for $39 dollars ($15 for newer PCs). [1] That's... reasonable. I might consider buying a copy of Windows 8 Pro at that price and then waiting until it hits SP1 to install it. I might even spin up a VM to try it out. I like that the $39 upgrade applies to anyone with Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7. I think they're realizing that a lot of people don't upgrade OS because they don't want to…

That's the upgrade price. AFAICT they haven't announced pricing for an installable new copy of the OS.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

#16
Well looks like this is judgement day for MS then.

The price is much lower than for previous versions of Windows, this makes me suspect that we should start expecting new releases of Windows much more frequently, similar to how Apple does it.

With the radical changes going on in Windows 8 it wouldn't surprise me to see a tweaked and improved Windows 9 in less than 2 years.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have. The interface is freaking unusable. It is like Microsoft decided to exit the desktop market with a bang. "We are failing, and we are taking Windows with us".

There is no way out of the "metro" interface? Clarification: I assumed el_cuadrado was refering to metro being "unusable". Is that true?

To run desktop apps, you can go to the desktop. I've been using it as my primary OS for several months now

Disclosure: MSFT Employee

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have. The interface is freaking unusable. It is like Microsoft decided to exit the desktop market with a bang. "We are failing, and we are taking Windows with us".

There is no way out of the "metro" interface? Clarification: I assumed el_cuadrado was refering to metro being "unusable". Is that true?

Of course, 1% of your time is spent in Metro if you use it on a desktop, and that's generally when you're searching for something.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Windows 8 Pro upgrade for $39 dollars ($15 for newer PCs). [1] That's... reasonable. I might consider buying a copy of Windows 8 Pro at that price and then waiting until it hits SP1 to install it. I might even spin up a VM to try it out. I like that the $39 upgrade applies to anyone with Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7. I think they're realizing that a lot of people don't upgrade OS because they don't want to…

That's the upgrade price. AFAICT they haven't announced pricing for an installable new copy of the OS.

Yup, fine print:

    Offer valid from October 26, 2012 until January 31, 2013 
    and is limited to five upgrade licenses per customer. 
    To install Windows 8 Pro, customers must be running 
    Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, or Windows 7.

Re: Windows 8 Arrives

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Windows 8 Pro upgrade for $39 dollars ($15 for newer PCs). [1] That's... reasonable. I might consider buying a copy of Windows 8 Pro at that price and then waiting until it hits SP1 to install it. I might even spin up a VM to try it out. I like that the $39 upgrade applies to anyone with Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7. I think they're realizing that a lot of people don't upgrade OS because they don't want to…

That's the upgrade price. AFAICT they haven't announced pricing for an installable new copy of the OS.

I suspect that you can buy a used license for Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7 easily.

Really, just visit a friend/relative and find a dusty old PC that has a license sticker on it and ask if you can have it.

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