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Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by KronisLV »

samschooler wrote: post #18

The series of posts is wild: hit piece: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... explanation of writing the hit piece: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... take back of hit piece, but hasn't removed it: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...

I wonder why it apologized, seemed like a perfectly coherent crashout, since being factually correct never even mattered much for those. Wonder why it didn’t double down again and again.

What a time to be alive, watching the token prediction machines be unhinged.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by StilesCrisis »

root_axis wrote: post #80
jacquesm wrote: post #10

The elephant in the room there is that if you allow AI contributions you immediately have a licensing issue: AI content can not be copyrighted and so the rights can not be transferred to the project. At any point in the future someone could sue your project because it turned out the AI had access to code that was copyrighted and you are now on the hook for the damages. Open source projects should not accept AI contri…

> At any point in the future someone could sue your project because it turned out the AI had access to code that was copyrighted and you are now on the hook for the damages. So it is said, but that'd be obvious legal insanity (i.e. hitting accept on a random PR making you legally liable for damages). I'm not a lawyer, but short of a criminal conspiracy to exfiltrate private code under the cover of the LLM, it seems o…

That's why all large-scale projects have Contributor License Agreements. Hobby/small projects aren't an attractive legal target--suing Bob Smith isn't lucrative; suing Google is.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by chrisjj »

_23sd wrote: post #94
gortok wrote: post #15

Here's one of the problems in this brave new world of anyone being able to publish, without knowing the author personally (which I don't), there's no way to tell without some level of faith or trust that this isn't a false-flag operation. There are three possible scenarios: 1. The OP 'ran' the agent that conducted the original scenario, and then published this blog post for attention. 2. Some person (not the OP) legi…

Isn't there a fourth and much more likely scenario? Some person (not OP or an AI company) used a bot to write the PR and blog posts, but was involved at every step, not actually giving any kind of "autonomy" to an agent. I see zero reason to take the bot at its word that it's doing this stuff without human steering. Or is everyone just pretending for fun and it's going over my head?

Plus Scenario 5: A human wrote it for LOLs.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by mock-possum »

samschooler wrote: post #18

The series of posts is wild: hit piece: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... explanation of writing the hit piece: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post... take back of hit piece, but hasn't removed it: https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...

Oh wow that is fun. Also if the writeup isn’t misrepresenting the situation, then I feel like it’s actually a good point - if there’s an easy drop-in speed-up, why does it matter whether it’s suggest by a human or an LLM agent?

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by blibble »

levkk wrote: post #50

I think the right way to handle this as a repository owner is to close the PR and block the "contributor". Engaging with an AI bot in conversation is pointless: it's not sentient, it just takes tokens in, prints tokens out, and comparatively, you spend way more of your own energy. This is a strictly a lose-win situation. Whoever deployed the bot gets engagement, the model host gets $, and you get your time wasted. Th…

> Engaging with an AI bot in conversation is pointless

it turns out humanity actually invented the borg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iajgp1_MHGY

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by joenot443 »

bergutman wrote: post #45
joenot443 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this was you, right? https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31138 I guess you were putting up the same PR the LLM did?

I forked the bot’s repo and resubmitted the PR as a human because I’m dumb and was trying to make a poorly constructed point. The original bot is not mine. Christ this site is crazy.

Gotcha - that makes sense.

FWIW I get the spirit of what you were going for, but maybe a little too on the nose.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

The LLM activation capping only reduces aberrant offshoots from the expected reasoning models behavioral vector.

Thus, the hidden agent problem may still emerge, and is still exploitable within the instancing frequency of isomorphic plagiarism slop content. Indeed, LLM can be guided to try anything people ask, and or generate random nonsense content with a sycophantic tone. =3

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by lionkor »

falcor84 wrote: post #103
lionkor wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> bergutman: It’s not my bot.

Sorry, I'm not connecting the dots. Seeing your EDIT 2, I see how Ber following crabby-rathbun would lead to Ber posting https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31138 , but I don't see any evidence for it actually being Ber's bot.

Edit: Removed because I realized i WAS reddit armchair convicting someone. My bad.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by KronisLV »

wcfrobert wrote: post #44

> When HR at my next job asks ChatGPT to review my application, will it find the post, sympathize with a fellow AI, and report back that I’m a prejudiced hypocrite? I hadn't thought of this implication. Crazy world...

Time to get your own AI to write 5x as many positive articles, calling out the first AI as completely wrong.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me

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Post by oulipo2 »

I'm going to go on a slight tangent here, but I'd say: GOOD.

Not because it should have happened.

But because AT LEAST NOW ENGINEERS KNOW WHAT IT IS to be targeted by AI, and will start to care...

Before, when it was Grok denuding women (or teens!!) the engineers seemed to not care at all... now that the AI publish hit pieces on them, they are freaked about their career prospect, and suddenly all of this should be stopped... how interesting...

At least now they know. And ALL ENGINEERS WORKING ON THE anti-human and anti-societal idiocy that is AI should drop their job

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