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D by definition meets the FFmpeg's criteria because it's also a C compiler. Because of that I never wondered how D performs in the benchmarks, as I know for sure that it can give me the performance of C where I need it.
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Sociomantic (bought by Dunhumby, now defunct IIRC) had a realtime advertisement business built in D. Weka have a realtime distributed filesystem written in D, used for ML/HPC workloads.
This https://github.com/weka ?
Most of the D repositories appear to have very little activity. The Go repositories seem to have more activity.
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Op saying Rust has a kind of GC is absurd. Rust keeps track of the lifetime of variables and drops them at the end of their lifecycle. If you really want to call that a GC you should at least make a huge distinction that it works at compile time: the generated code will have drop calls inserted without any overhead at runtime. But no one calls that a GC. You see OP is trying to murk the waters when they claim C has a…
> If you really want to call that a GC you should at least make a huge distinction that it works at compile time: the generated code will have drop calls inserted without any overhead at runtime. But no one calls that a GC. Except for the memory management literature, because it's interested in the actual tradeoffs of memory management. A compiler inferring lifetimes, either automatically for some objects or for most…
But is it not easy to opt out of in C, C++, Zig and Rust, by simply not using the types that use reference counting?
And how does your performance analysis consider techniques like arenas and allocating at startup only?
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I think you have misunderstood what a carpenter is. A carpenter is someone who makes wooden furniture (among other things).
> I think you have misunderstood what a carpenter is. A carpenter is someone who makes wooden furniture (among other things). I think _you_ have misunderstood what a carpenter is. At least where I live, you might get a carpenter to erect the wood framing for a house. Or build a wooden staircase. Or erect a drywall. I'm sure most carpenters worth their salt could plausibly also make wooden furniture, at an exorbitant…
a person whose job is making and repairing wooden objects and structures
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What problem is D solving ?
One good case for it that I see is a viable basis for cross-platform desktop apps. Today, cross-platform desktop GUI apps are either just a snapshot of the website contained inside Electron, or a C/C++ code base with manual memory management. D can serve as a nice middle ground in that space.
You're free to start a company and solve a real business problem.
If I became a D expert tomorrow it's not going to make me more money. It's not getting me a better job.
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I'd rather say that the GC is the superpower of the language. It allows you to quickly prototype without focusing too much on performance, but it also allows you to come back to the exact same piece of code and rewrite it using malloc at any time. C# or Java don't have this, nor can they compile C code and seamlessly interoperate with it — but in D, this is effortless. Furthermore, if you dig deeper, you'll find that…
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IMHO D just missed the mark with the GC in core. It was released in a time where a replacement for C++ was sorely needed, and it tried to position itself as that (obvious from the name). But by including the GC/runtime it went into a category with C# and Java which are much better options if you're fine with shipping a runtime and GC. Eventually Go showed up to crowd out this space even further. Meanwhile in the C/C+…
> GC/runtime 1. Runtime: A runtime is any code that is not a direct result of compiling the program's code (i.e. it is used across different programs) that is linked, either statically or dynamically, into the executable. I remember that when I learnt C in the eighties, the book said that C isn't just a language but a rich runtime. Rust also has a rich runtime. It's true that you can write Rust in a mode without a ru…
Look at C#'s competitive placings with C++/Rust on The Computer Benchmark game due to .NET's ruthless optimization.
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dplug is a framework for building audio plugins that do realtime signal processing, and its creator has produced several well-sold plugins under the "Auburn Sounds" studio name. https://github.com/AuburnSounds/Dplug
Do you happen to know why D has not been accepted into the benchmarks games at debian.net? I heard that D developers contributed D code, but that D was never accepted.
I like D in general, however it is missing out in WASM where other languages like Rust, Zig, even Go are thriving. Official reasoning usually included waiting for GC support from WASM runtime, but other GC languages seem to just ship their own GC and move on.
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D by definition meets the FFmpeg's criteria because it's also a C compiler. Because of that I never wondered how D performs in the benchmarks, as I know for sure that it can give me the performance of C where I need it.
But then, to use D for performance, would I then have to master both D, C and their interaction? That doesn't seem great. It's like having to learn 2 languages and also how they interact.