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NetNewsWire Turns 23

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I’m not crazy about the Liquid Glass look. I decided to stick with Reeder Classic until it dies, even if it’s nice to see a well maintained alternative…

Me too. Unfortunately, it seems Silvio has abandoned further development. There are some truly annoying bugs (YouTube embeds do not work, swipe gestures stopped working, iOS images are slightly cut off,…) :( But I tried all alternatives and can't make the transition after idk, 8 years…

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I'm staying away from macOS Tahoe for now. NetNewsWire has already announced that they will no longer support the earlier 6.x release that I use. I assume that means no bug fixes or back-porting of new features. Sad.

I'm staying away from Tahoe for now as well, but are there any bugs in the 6.x release?

GitHub reports that there are 242 open issues labeled "Bug".

https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire/issues?q=is...

Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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i love it, no idea it was 23 years old!

however, i found it doesn't abide by some "no new content, back off for a bit" part of the protocol. i've had two feeds refuse to be added because it sends multiple requests during discovery, i think. kind of a bummer!

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First RSS client I ever used. First for which I bought a license. Reeder client seduced me away while NNW was in limbo while Brent Simmons (creator) wasn't working on it directly. Glad he's back at the helm. I never unsubscribed from his blog.

I'm using the older (non-subscription) Reeder too. How does NetNewsWire compare in features today?

If you use Reeder’s in-app browser, NetNewsWire (at least v6, last I tried) is a non-starter. It can only direct websites to open in the browser.

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Not to take away from NetNewsWires accomplishments, but getting it was such a disappointment. Adding insult to injury, I had to pay to get the app on my iPad. It was one of the few apps I paid for and all I got was a deep sense of wasted money. Since the demise of Byline, I’ve been rocking Inoreader and have had no reason to look back. All I miss is Google Reader, but that’s never coming back. The only new thing I wa…

Doesn't Apple offer purchases refunds?

Not really. In the EU they make you specifically agree that you won’t ask for one (or they did, I stopped buying from the App Store many years ago). Which does feel like a failure of the law that that is even allowed. Even when they did, it was never like Steam’s “no questions asked as long as you bought it less than 14 days ago and used it for fewer than 2 hours”, it was still conditional on their approval.

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I love the philosophy page: https://netnewswire.com/philosophy.html """ We believe that apps should never crash. They should be free of bugs. They should be fast — they should feel lighter-than-air. We believe that quality is more important than just piling on features; we believe that quality is the most important feature. And we believe that high quality is transformative — it makes for an app you never hesitate to…

Their new version 7 implements the lower quality design of liquid glass while also blocking all ios versions below the latest (so you can't get bug fixes and slow features with the better design). How does that fit the philosophy?

I think it looks better (on Mac and iOS) than any other Liquid Glass app. And I can’t blame Brent for adopting it. One of the standout features of the app is just being native, not trying to re-invent the wheel with custom GUI, and taking advantage of built-in platform features.

My favorite NNW feature is iCloud syncing: Not needing a separate RSS back-end (but of course you can use one if you want to sync with other clients).

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Their new version 7 implements the lower quality design of liquid glass while also blocking all ios versions below the latest (so you can't get bug fixes and slow features with the better design). How does that fit the philosophy?

I think it looks better (on Mac and iOS) than any other Liquid Glass app. And I can’t blame Brent for adopting it. One of the standout features of the app is just being native, not trying to re-invent the wheel with custom GUI, and taking advantage of built-in platform features. My favorite NNW feature is iCloud syncing: Not needing a separate RSS back-end (but of course you can use one if you want to sync with other…

> think it looks better (on Mac and iOS) than any other Liquid Glass app

what a weird comparison, the baseline is the previous version of the app

> standout features of the app is just being native, not trying to re-invent the wheel with custom GUI, and taking advantage of built-in platform features

Since the previous GUI isn't custom you don't lose your standout features

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That's a tough one, but considering it's only the 7th major version to come out in 23 years, I'd say that's a fairly safe place to demarcate backwards compatibility, considering that it's (probably) a fairly major UI overhaul on both iOS and Mac. Despite the poor quality of the OSes themselves, it's just a small studio, gotta pick your battles carefully. You can still use the version you're using, and if you ever upg…

> gotta pick your battles carefully Ok, and how is wasting time making the design worse to follow the OS instead of spending that time implementing missing features a carefully picked battle? I thought the philosophy was prioritizing quality > You can still use the version you're using Which would be missing bug fixes and those slow features the may be added next year

The app has always followed the masOS design language, because the app is built using the native macOS tools. It makes sense for it to match the OS it's on, apps built with stand UI components migrated to 'Liquid glass' much easier.

The app is open source (https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire), feel free to back-port any features or bug-fixes you would like to spend your time on.

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At one point (when I first tried this) I'm pretty sure youtube didn't have a link to an rss feed in the source. I had grown used to going to source and searching for "rss" and "xml." However, I just checked and they definitely do have a link now!

Oh, thanks for the hint! I might be able to remove some code from my feed detection code (on pipes) then. But on a first glance, it seems like alternate links for channels are back, but playlists are missing. Still, that might be a step forward.

I think openrss.org has YouTube playlist feeds
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