I don’t get it. Why are artists more deserving than unemployed insurance salespeople or carpet installers?
What kind of undervalued labor do unemployed salespeople and carpet installers perform during unemployment?
Ireland rolls out basic income scheme for artists
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Yes and do billion dollar corporations really need that much government subsidies? Turns out yes they do, but sure enjoy your plastic trinkets from China I guess. Hopefully you thank a tax payer that pays for the welfare and medicaid of those Walmart workers, and the local town for cheaper property taxes and utility rates at Walmart. God knows Walmart couldn't exist with all this rampant welfare.
walmart solves a major logistical problem: provide government subsidized goods to low income neighborhoods. the government should like to give walmart money, as it is plausibly a cost-effective way to provide these goods to people who need them. the administrators of walmart are well rewarded for providing this public good.
The only thing Walmart solves is destroying local ecosystems both biological and human. Acting like the executives paying themselves exorbitant salaries is a virtue is frankly odd and deeply disgusting as a human being, I'm sure the lowly workers wished they could vote themselves higher salaries too.
Maybe if workplace democracy was enforced upon Walmart it would be an entirely different entity, likely for the better too.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Can just all myself an artist to get other people's tax money?
It seems there are 2000 positions and 8000 applicants. The program cost $74M, but more than paid for itself: > It also recouped more than the trial's net cost of 72 million euros ($86 million) through increases in arts-related expenditure, productivity gains and reduced reliance on other social welfare payments, according to a government-commissioned cost-benefit analysis.
They were wise to limit it, otherwise Ireland would see an unprecidented rise in the number of artists in its population.
Re: Ireland rolls out basic income scheme for artists
#194I don’t get it. Why are artists more deserving than unemployed insurance salespeople or carpet installers?
These guys are less stubborn when it comes to ruining your life for some vision?
Re: Ireland rolls out basic income scheme for artists
#195I don’t get it. Why are artists more deserving than unemployed insurance salespeople or carpet installers?
they do deserve, but looks like this is a pilot for UBI.
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#197Artist speaking. A similar scheme was employed by Holland for many years. The state committed to buy at least one artwork from each artist per year and predictably their warehouses became filled with crap art that no one wanted. That being said, wise governments recognize the value of some kind of support of the arts. One reason for the incredible esteem that Korean culture is held in within Asia is the Korean govern…
> crap art that no one wanted.
Through the kunstuitleen they leased and sold art to galleries and private homes. It was like a library for contemporary art which paid struggling artists and their families, while also exposing the public to more art.
To say that "no one wanted" is a massively overblown. Thousands of art pieces lived happily in many Dutch homes.
Re: Ireland rolls out basic income scheme for artists
#198I don’t get it. Why are artists more deserving than unemployed insurance salespeople or carpet installers?
Anyone can become an artist with no skill and minimal effort while being a carpet installer requires skill and effort. If you are a carpet installer just call it art and get the money
Ok so why don't carpet installers just find jobs?
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Ray Dalio says a lot of things, only about half are correct. Where is the data? Employers are quick to fire unproductive workers and yet the unemployment rate remains low.
The figures exclude workers who would like to work but have given up, and those who work part-time but would like a full-time job. The U-6 rate is nearly twice the rate of the official figures.
Also, one major confounding factor is that in 2008, gig economy apps like Uber did not exist.
The unemployment rate is measured by if someone has done an hour of paid work in the last week. Which is pretty easy to disqualify for if you do any gig economy work. And in a true slowdown the gig apps will probably stop being able to absorb people.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
walmart solves a major logistical problem: provide government subsidized goods to low income neighborhoods. the government should like to give walmart money, as it is plausibly a cost-effective way to provide these goods to people who need them. the administrators of walmart are well rewarded for providing this public good.
The only thing Walmart solves is destroying local ecosystems both biological and human. Acting like the executives paying themselves exorbitant salaries is a virtue is frankly odd and deeply disgusting as a human being, I'm sure the lowly workers wished they could vote themselves higher salaries too. Maybe if workplace democracy was enforced upon Walmart it would be an entirely different entity, likely for the better…
I'm sure the OP intended an /s at the end of their post :)