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Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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Post by dewey »

mmooss wrote: post #9

The biggest problem with newsreaders, IME, has been managing large numbers of feeds. Most user time is spent handling redundant stories - e.g., if you have feeds from many major news sources, for each major event you get one or more stories on each feed, saying mostly the same things. I haven't seen a newsreader solve that problem. Has anyone tried an LLM? The best solution I know is grouping redundant stories togeth…

That was partially the original promise of Fever, which is the API many RSS services still support and that somehow lives on.

Nuzzle did something similar for Twitter but shut down (https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/05/05/nuzzel).

That would be a good addition to feed readers, especially for news feeds.

Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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Post by ftth_finland »

Not to take away from NetNewsWires accomplishments, but getting it was such a disappointment. Adding insult to injury, I had to pay to get the app on my iPad. It was one of the few apps I paid for and all I got was a deep sense of wasted money.

Since the demise of Byline, I’ve been rocking Inoreader and have had no reason to look back.

All I miss is Google Reader, but that’s never coming back.

The only new thing I want in an RSS reader is a handsfree, voice only mode. Being able to listen to RSS articles and navigating by voice commands.

Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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Post by criddell »

ftth_finland wrote: post #15

Not to take away from NetNewsWires accomplishments, but getting it was such a disappointment. Adding insult to injury, I had to pay to get the app on my iPad. It was one of the few apps I paid for and all I got was a deep sense of wasted money. Since the demise of Byline, I’ve been rocking Inoreader and have had no reason to look back. All I miss is Google Reader, but that’s never coming back. The only new thing I wa…

NetNewsWire is free.

https://netnewswire.com/

Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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Post by ftth_finland »

criddell wrote: post #17
ftth_finland wrote: post #15

Not to take away from NetNewsWires accomplishments, but getting it was such a disappointment. Adding insult to injury, I had to pay to get the app on my iPad. It was one of the few apps I paid for and all I got was a deep sense of wasted money. Since the demise of Byline, I’ve been rocking Inoreader and have had no reason to look back. All I miss is Google Reader, but that’s never coming back. The only new thing I wa…

NetNewsWire is free. https://netnewswire.com/

It wasn’t at the time.

Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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Post by PaulHoule »

mmooss wrote: post #9

The biggest problem with newsreaders, IME, has been managing large numbers of feeds. Most user time is spent handling redundant stories - e.g., if you have feeds from many major news sources, for each major event you get one or more stories on each feed, saying mostly the same things. I haven't seen a newsreader solve that problem. Has anyone tried an LLM? The best solution I know is grouping redundant stories togeth…

My YOShInOn RSS reader uses an SBERT model for classification (will I upvote this or not?) and large-scale clustering (20 k-means clusters and show me the top N in each cluster so I get a diversity of different articles.)

For duplicate detection I am using DBSCAN

https://scikit-learn.org/stable/modules/generated/sklearn.cl...

and found some parameters where I get almost no false positives but a lot of duplicates get missed when I lowered the threshold to make clusters I started getting false positives fast. I don't find duplicates are a big problem in my system with the 110 feeds I have and the subjects I am interested in, but insofar as they are a problem there tend to be structured relationships between articles: that is, site A syndicates articles from site B but for some reason articles from site A usually get selected and site B articles don't. An article from Site A often links to one or more articles, often that I don't have a feed for, and it would be nice if the system looked at the whole constellation. Stuff like that.

Effective clustering is the really interesting technology Google News has had for a long time.

Re: NetNewsWire Turns 23

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Post by havaloc »

I was on Google Reader, then Feedly for a long time, until the Feedly iOS client just slowly degraded and got buggy. I'm not opposed to paying for a good RSS set.

I finally switched to NetNewsWire as the front end and FreshRSS on the backend, and could not be happier. NNW being free is just the icing on the cake, it's really great, and FreshRSS was also really easy to install.

What I like about FreshRSS is that it's PHP and will install on any old shared hosting plan and uses Sqlite as the database, super easy.

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