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Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Re: Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

Hanlon’s Razor

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Someone probably just screwed up

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post #219

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What’s also bonkers is our political whimpiness that allowed this to happen, right? If there is a drone response it’s pretty damning evidence that we are way too dovish in our policy against drug smuggling up until now

It doesn't say much either way. I'm from the UK, we had the ("real") IRA put a RPG-22 anti-tank rocket at the walls of MI6 HQ (the UK version of the CIA): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_MI6_attack Dangerous things like these are not expensive, compared to even low budget small-time group.

I mean the RIRA is a splinter group of the PIRA which had massive funding from overseas, especially from the United States. PIRA was not a small-time group.

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> Airline sources told Reuters the grounding of flights was believed to be tied to the Pentagon's use of counterdrone technology to address Mexican drug cartels' use of drones of the U.S.-Mexico border. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-halts-all-flights-texass...

This admin is focused on the message of stopping the inflow of drugs to the US. There are probably some true believers, and there are probably some reactionary accelerationists. There’s also significant evidence of amateurism, misinformation, and incompetence. All of that coming together, I see this action coming out of meeting where - one party was convinced that this would solve the fentanyl epidemic - one party wa…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut3I6gFmlls

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Escalation by attacking US civilians or the homeland has also gone poorly. It’s been the casus belli many times, notably ending in two Japanese cities getting nuked…

Dropping nuclear bombs on Japan was in an entirely different context which has no relevance here. We're not in the middle of a global war (nor is anyone even at war with Mexico), nor in a nuclear arms race asserting nuclear capabilities for the first time in history. You're forgetting all the times the US failed too, and those cases weren't even on its own border. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam... the list is very long.…

> You're forgetting all the times the US failed too, and those cases weren't even on its own border.

Doesn't the US have more resources at home, not less?

Wouldn't a strike on US soil be a larger escalation and dictate a swift and larger response?

Re: Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

Will be interesting when/if more information is released. I am not sure why folks are so surprised or think it’s shocking. While definitely out of the norm, my mind was immediately thinking 10 days seems like an even number where you are trying to find or do something, not sure how long it’s going to take so you just stick it. Certainly odd that it’s only a few hours but for all I know there is some written government procedure for whoever is doing that sets it at 10 days.

Re: Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

NYT reports they're claiming it was about testing anti-drone tech at Fort Bliss.

> The brief shutdown was related to a test of new counter-drone technology by the military at nearby Fort Bliss Army base, according to a person briefed on the matter.

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The distinction is those are cases where they are murdering Mexican citizens. If a cartel murdered a bus of people in America I suspect most any administration would retaliate in some form.

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Of course things happen sometimes. But, the cartels typically do not want to mess with Americans, particularly in tourist areas, because that brings heat they don't want. It's literally bad for business.

Re: Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

Hanlon’s Razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Someone probably just screwed up

You don't screw up something this major, it doesn't happen by accident nor by incompetence.

They had plans to bomb something south of that airport, they had to postpone those plans now that the info is public enough that whatever their target was is definitely aware of those plans.

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The president has way too much executive power. In my country everything is decided by a cabinet meeting in America one man orders and everyone obeys.

Theoretically a lot of that is true for the US. It's just that - both parties have undermined the separation of power, and expanded power of the president repeatedly for many years (e.g. with granting special privileges to the president after 9/11 which where way to broad and not strictly limited to a very short time) - especially Trump has undermined/dismantled a lot of "checks and balances" mechanisms, including in…

You’ve left out that both chambers of congress is of the same party as POTUS and have abdicated their part in checks and balances.

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Who forms the cabinet though? In a two party system - where one party seems to be built around a personality cult - cabinet can be filled with rubber stampers

Yeah, it could be formed by one person, or from two parties, or possibly by an even more opaque network of influence backed by god knows who.

The cabinet is formed with congressional approval which this spineless congress did with a rubber stamp
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