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Re: Something Big Is Happening

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Post by aero9188 »

psiszj wrote: post #11

What’s the point in using these tools if they’re gonna replace us in a few years? It’s weird the author says that but then his conclusion is basically “go spend money on stuff I’m invested in”. Covid comparison is apt. I remember being insanely scared in Jan 2020 when those videos of Chinese people dropping dead were coming out (and being shamed by most of my peers etc). Few months later it was starting to become obv…

> Few months later it was starting to become obvious it was really only a major risk if you were old or infirm, but the rest of the world had took awhile to catch up.

Only a risk in terms of dying sure, but plenty of people lost taste and smell for long periods before the vaccine (I wouldn't be surprised if some of them have yet to get it back). I'd rather be dead, to be honest. The food around my part of the world is too delicious.

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Post by pockybum522 »

Every once in a while, I try LLMs just to see how improvement is going.

Yesterday I had to explain to Opus what the color white is and what "bottom right" means after it declared problems fixed, repeatedly, that a literal preschooler would have been able to tell were absolutely unchanged from the original problem description.

I am still waiting for this world of redundant programmers I've been hearing about for years.

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Post by whynotminot »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #14

I am not having the exact same experience as the author--Opus 4.6 and Codex 5.3 seem more incremental to me than what he is describing--but if we're on an exponential curve, the difference is a rounding error. 4 months ago, I tried to build an application mostly vibe-coded. I got impressively far for what I thought was possible, but it bogged down. This past weekend, my friend had OpenClaw build an application of sim…

> But I think we're in world where very soon, companies will be demanding their engineering departments converge to the lived experience of the people who are seeing something like the author.

I think this part is very real.

If you’re in this thread saying “I don’t get it” you are in danger much faster than your coworker who is using it every day and succeeding at getting around AI’s quirks to be productive.

Re: Something Big Is Happening

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pockybum522 wrote: post #22

Every once in a while, I try LLMs just to see how improvement is going. Yesterday I had to explain to Opus what the color white is and what "bottom right" means after it declared problems fixed, repeatedly, that a literal preschooler would have been able to tell were absolutely unchanged from the original problem description. I am still waiting for this world of redundant programmers I've been hearing about for years…

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Re: Something Big Is Happening

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Post by psiszj »

whynotminot wrote: post #25
acjohnson55 wrote: post #14

I am not having the exact same experience as the author--Opus 4.6 and Codex 5.3 seem more incremental to me than what he is describing--but if we're on an exponential curve, the difference is a rounding error. 4 months ago, I tried to build an application mostly vibe-coded. I got impressively far for what I thought was possible, but it bogged down. This past weekend, my friend had OpenClaw build an application of sim…

> But I think we're in world where very soon, companies will be demanding their engineering departments converge to the lived experience of the people who are seeing something like the author. I think this part is very real. If you’re in this thread saying “I don’t get it” you are in danger much faster than your coworker who is using it every day and succeeding at getting around AI’s quirks to be productive.

Be careful here. I have more coworkers contributing slop and causing production issues than 10x’ing themselves.

The real danger is if management sees this as acceptable. If so best of luck to everyone.

Re: Something Big Is Happening

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Post by acjohnson55 »

waku888 wrote: post #17
acjohnson55 wrote: post #14

I am not having the exact same experience as the author--Opus 4.6 and Codex 5.3 seem more incremental to me than what he is describing--but if we're on an exponential curve, the difference is a rounding error. 4 months ago, I tried to build an application mostly vibe-coded. I got impressively far for what I thought was possible, but it bogged down. This past weekend, my friend had OpenClaw build an application of sim…

> But I think we're in world where very soon, companies will be demanding their engineering departments converge to the lived experience of the people who are seeing something like the author. We already live in that world. It's called "Hey Siri", "Hey Google", and "Alexa". It seems that no amount of executive tantrum has caused any of these tools to give a convergent experience.

Voice assistants, which I've used less than 10 times in my life, are hardly related to what I'm talking about.

Re: Something Big Is Happening

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Post by fooqux »

psiszj wrote: post #28
whynotminot wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I think we're in world where very soon, companies will be demanding their engineering departments converge to the lived experience of the people who are seeing something like the author. I think this part is very real. If you’re in this thread saying “I don’t get it” you are in danger much faster than your coworker who is using it every day and succeeding at getting around AI’s quirks to be productive.

Be careful here. I have more coworkers contributing slop and causing production issues than 10x’ing themselves. The real danger is if management sees this as acceptable. If so best of luck to everyone.

> The real danger is if management sees this as acceptable. If so best of luck to everyone.

Already happening. It's just an extension of the "move fast and break stuff" mantra, only faster. I think the jury is still out on if more or less things will break, but it's starting to look like not enough to pump the brakes.

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