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Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by sho_hn »

throwaway_ocr wrote: post #33
hiccup_socks wrote: post #21

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> "Post Mortem" feels a bit like it's done in bad faith as it's usually applied to projects that are over. is it? outside of autopsies, i think i have only ever seen it used as a synonym for "incident report". i dont think ive ever associated the term specifically with the end of a project. e.g. cloudflare uses the tag for all of their incident reports ( https://blog.cloudflare.com/tag/post-mortem/ ), not as a signal…

In the incident case, it's a post-mortem on the incident. The incident itself is (hopefully) resolved and can now be dissected to learn about what went wrong and how things can improve in the future. That's what a post-mortem implies to me in the tech industry. A thing happened, it's over now, here are the lessons we learned to take into the future.

Yes, but Bazzite is not over.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by morshu9001 »

esseph wrote: post #77
morshu9001 wrote: post #75

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I'm not really obligated to catch up on that. I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out, until then Mac is a fine dev/personal machine.

> I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out You don't understand. This won't be "sorted out", this is a feature. Maybe it's just not for you, and that's ok.

You said it yourself, "fuck snap." But Snap is the default for a bunch of things. There's probably someone else saying "fuck flatpak." The user doesn't win this way, it's not a feature.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by morshu9001 »

plagiarist wrote: post #79
morshu9001 wrote: post #75

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I'm not really obligated to catch up on that. I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out, until then Mac is a fine dev/personal machine.

Are you sure that's okay? It has App Store, .pkg, drag-to-install, homebrew, MacPorts, and who knows what else!

MacPorts vs Homebrew is actually my biggest gripe with Mac dev, but at least it doesn't get in the way of installing basic software. Regular stuff is always intuitive and ends up with a .app. Even lots of dev stuff is just a .pkg you download, macports/homebrew is for niches.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by liamgm »

WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #39

You like me for my (always right) conspiratorial takes I got another one: Look, follow the money, Microsoft knows Windows 11 on handhelds is a dumpster fire right now, and they are not ready to drop their own "Xbox Portable" yet So how do they keep the market from moving to the alternative SteamOS/Valve? They trojan horse the "alternative" Think about it: Bazzite pops up, gains massive community "trust", every tradit…

not undercover, kyle is microsoft employee based on his github bio.

also if you wanna support linux on gaming, just buy hardware that support steamos like steamdeck, steam machine, steam frame, legion go s, rog ally.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by eikenberry »

morshu9001 wrote: post #82
esseph wrote: post #77

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> I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out You don't understand. This won't be "sorted out", this is a feature. Maybe it's just not for you, and that's ok.

You said it yourself, "fuck snap." But Snap is the default for a bunch of things. There's probably someone else saying "fuck flatpak." The user doesn't win this way, it's not a feature.

Snaps are a Canonical thing and is only used by default on Ubuntu and distro's based on Ubuntu. No other distro uses or recommends them.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by 5G_activated »

dismalaf wrote: post #18
shantara wrote: post #13

It’s worth pointing out that the official Bazzite position is that Antheas was removed from the project for breaching Code of Conduct and harassing people in their official Discord server

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it was clearly bad enough for everyone else to decide that they didn't want to put up with him anymore. which is what happens in the real world.

online, everyone considers themselves a public figure. and because we can't seem to get shot of public figures, whether they be rapists, homophobes, or just arseholes, alleged or proven, they believe, logically, you shouldn't be able to be rid of them.

offline, if you have someone who makes your life a misery, you tell them to fuck off.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by 5G_activated »

teamspirit wrote: post #40
uncletaco wrote: post #9

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Why? Because some guy was pushed out of the friend group?

Well, yes, but that’s an over simplification. My main concern is the instability. I don’t want to deal with a project that’s in turmoil and Cachy feels like a more stable project, even before reading any of this. It’s a larger user base and therefore more likely to stick around (or so I tell myself).

i'd be surprised if there are more users of cachy than bazzite.

what gets missed is that bazzite is, to borrow video game parlance, a mod of fedora's atomic desktops. every piece created to build and maintain the system is on github. it's not rocket science, it's a collection of dockerfiles, rpm specs, config files and github actions workflows. and fedora is not going away any time soon.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by morshu9001 »

eikenberry wrote: post #85
morshu9001 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said it yourself, "fuck snap." But Snap is the default for a bunch of things. There's probably someone else saying "fuck flatpak." The user doesn't win this way, it's not a feature.

Snaps are a Canonical thing and is only used by default on Ubuntu and distro's based on Ubuntu. No other distro uses or recommends them.

Those are the popular distros though. Switch to something else and you trade 1 problem for 10.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by ycombinatrix »

cobolexpert wrote: post #61
jajuuka wrote: post #42

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On desktops and servers yeah. Bazzite was a bit of a special case as it was catered to handheld devices. So it did have that going for it. A one stop install that just supported everything on these devices from the start.

Maybe SteamOS will help with this!

What do you mean? SteamOS is backed by a large company.
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