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Hard-braking events as indicators of road segment crash risk

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Post by MPSimmons »

loeg wrote: post #218
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #213

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> vehicle changes lanes in front of you; I will never understand why this is so rage-inducing for people. Changing lanes is a necessary part of navigating, even during busy traffic. People on an on-ramp will need to get in front of somebody . People needing to move back to the right because their exist is coming up will need to get in front of somebody . Your lane is not a birth right. Let people merge. > you slow do…

It's frustrating when it eats into your safe following distance. The driver merging in ahead of you is being dangerous and not leaving a safe following distance for themselves (or you).

The buffer exists to be used. Allowing people to merge into it makes the lane that they came from safer. Build a new buffer.

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Post by westmeal »

leviathant wrote: post #301
chausen wrote: post #222

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It brings me peace to see other people thinking this way. You should be an active participant on the highway, making decisions to maximize flow. Leaving space so people can merge, controlling speed to smooth slowdowns, anticipating traffic patterns, etc. All of the people tailgating are contributing to the congestion. https://youtu.be/iHzzSao6ypE

The trick I keep in mind in situations like this is to look at brake lights ahead of me. If cars are braking and I'm accelerating, I'm probably going to end up driving very inefficiently. By letting off the accelerator, I don't close the gap as quickly, and eventually, the turbulence in the traffic flow steadies out. Instead of stopping and starting, I roll at an averaged out speed, which doesn't feel as frustrating…

76 is the worst

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Post by mjbale116 »

presidentender wrote: post #20

I got one of those dongles from my insurance company that plugged into the ODB2 port and reported my driving habits. I was a bad driver. It would frequently beep at me to let me know that I had braked too hard. I was mystified. "What should I have done differently," I'd think, as I raged at the objective machine that judged me so. The next time my brother came to visit, he called mom. "Oh, and presidentender is a goo…

I have this image in my mind of a discussion taking place in a high speed rail possibly around 2100 where people will look back and say: "I cannot believe we had people driving 2ton steel boxes back in the day, I cannot even compute those micromorts"

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Post by toast0 »

rramadass wrote: post #258
duncangh wrote: post #215

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Driving and living in Atlanta after living in Charleston and Raleigh felt like transitioning from a modern cooperative society to an island of cannibals. The amount of aggression needed to change lanes largely regardless of attempts to signal good faith and politeness is baffling. Driving is a fascinating ritual with vastly differing norms across regions. It would be interesting to learn if anthropologists have studi…

> Driving is a fascinating ritual with vastly differing norms across regions. It would be interesting to learn if anthropologists have studied this And Psychologists! Reading the comments in this thread is quite amusing. As a driver in India, i can tell you anything goes as long as you don't get into an accident (which may/may-not kill you) or get caught by the police. No rules matter and the only goal is to "one-up"…

> No rules matter

I was only briefly in India and did not drive while there, but the one rule that everyone adhered to was: communicate what you're doing by honking.

If you are stopped: honk to let people know.

If you are moving: honk to let people know.

If you are turning: honk to let people know.

If you are proceeding straight: honk to let people know.

If you are on a motorbike or in an autorickshaw: honk twice to let people know.

Etc.

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Post by dumpsterdiver »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #243
codebje wrote: post #237

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Being angry at them won't change their behaviour, but will make you more stressed. Remember: driving like that is its own punishment, because they'll be extremely angry and frustrated at everything. Between that and the realisation that driving 2% slower adds about 1 minute more per hour of driving you have to do, I find I can avoid stressing at people lane weaving and have a nicer journey myself.

> Being angry at them won't change their behaviour Yes, but the comment above was about society collectively making a decision, so that's the context I responded in. And while it's relaxing to not worry about your own exact speed, I don't see how that lets you avoid stressing about the people that are lane-weaving. They're acting dangerously and I need to be ready to react to them.

Unless they careened into your vehicle while making the lane change, just calmly allow your vehicle to drift away from theirs until you have a safe buffer again, and take joy in the fact that it didn’t meaningfully impact your arrival time, but you’ve meaningfully impacted the safety of your immediate surroundings.

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Post by itishappy »

delichon wrote: post #144

I'd love to have a danger heat map displayed on a HUD while driving. Say a default green banner that goes red near a hot spot or even animates near a current hazard. Mostly it could use these same stats, but then be strident if anything unpredictable is detected nearby.

Waze used to indicate transient road hazards (e.g. stopped cars, pot holes). It's in Google Maps now too (took them long enough) and I assume others.

Static hazards deserve physical signage and/or remediation.

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #303
cucumber3732842 wrote: post #265

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>There's nothing fairer than user-pays, especially when users can choose to pay less by changing their behavior. If user pays is so fair why does anyone who could access credit or liquid assets in excess of their state's minimums have to pay hundreds to thousands per year for auto insurance?

Most states allow you to go without insurance by fronting the cash. It's called self-insurance. You put up some minimum amount, file a form with the state DMV, and keep the approval certificate in the vehicle like normal. It's relatively unknown for individuals because most people have no desire to lock up tens or hundreds of thousands of spare dollars just to avoid car insurance. As far as I'm aware it's primarily u…

>Most states allow you to go without insurance by fronting the cash.

That's BS on it's face. Most states don't allow it or they restrict it to big business and government agencies.

>because most people have no desire to lock up tens or hundreds of thousands of spare dollars just to avoid car insurance.

Most people's money isn't making a return greater than what insurance would cost them.

Second, this completely ignores my point about credit. I can easily get hundreds of thousands of dollars in credit secured against my house or tens of thousands in unsecured credit (credit card). Why must I pay to keep the lights on at some insurance firm?

And I'm not particularly rich. If the numbers pencil out for me then surely they must pencil out for millions of people.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

antisthenes wrote: post #161
ChuckMcM wrote: post #78

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Okay I'm thinking of a very Shenzen kind of gizmo for your car that projects a bright red laser "keep out" box on the road in front of your car which is adjusted in size for your current speed.

Can't wait to get blinded by lasers when cars are going over bumps and speed humps. I know you were probably writing tongue in cheek, but that is one of those "solutions" that doesn't stop bad actors and makes good actors more miserable than usual.

Like LED headlights :-). It would kind of be a concern except that geometry in in your favor. The angle down they would have to shine + the size related to speed would result in the lasers pretty much always hitting the street except perhaps if you were at the top of Gough[1].

[1] SF drivers will get that.

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Post by its_magic »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #310
its_magic wrote: post #300

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Taking a break is less extreme than throwing a lug nut at a moving car. Exiting and immediately reentering a freeway is also less extreme. Calling the cops if someone that is raging at you follows you when you do that is not extreme. Nobody suggested "driving all over creation".

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