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My experience with WPEngine

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Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by smacktoward »

papsosouid wrote: post #185
webwright wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, WordPress powers (by some estimations) 18-20% of the freakin' Internet. It's not flawless, but it's a great piece of software that makes millions of people (and developers) happy.

"It is popular" does not in any way contradict my statement which was "it is a pile of shit". Internet explorer used to "power the internet" too. It was also a colossal pile of shit.

There is generally more business to be found cleaning up piles of shit than there is shining stacks of gold.

Or as they say in the UK: "Where there's muck, there's brass." http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/408900.html

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by [deleted] »

dotBen wrote: post #97

Ben, one of the co-founders of WP Engine here and as someone wrote below[1] - yes, this isn't the most wonderful thing to wake up to in the morning and sort out while still in your PJ's ;) Ok, so first and foremost I am incredibly sorry, Jacques, for the experience you had. I can say with confidence that your experience with WP Engine is out of the ordinary, but no excuses. I’m writing this as a way of owning up to m…

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Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by mgkimsal »

typicalrunt wrote: post #83

WordPress, like most LAMP apps of its era, makes a series of architectural assumptions that turn out to have horrible impact on non-functional qualities … but that’s another rant for another day. Until I came to this sentence, I was coming to the conclusion that CMSes fall down fairly quickly once you add in large data, large traffic, or complex installs. For the life of me, I can't see why people continue to use CMS…

There are loads of people who "know the (wordpress) codebase inside and out". There are loads of people who don't. There are loads of people who make crap sites in Django/Symfony/Rails as well.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by capex »

dotBen wrote: post #97

Ben, one of the co-founders of WP Engine here and as someone wrote below[1] - yes, this isn't the most wonderful thing to wake up to in the morning and sort out while still in your PJ's ;) Ok, so first and foremost I am incredibly sorry, Jacques, for the experience you had. I can say with confidence that your experience with WP Engine is out of the ordinary, but no excuses. I’m writing this as a way of owning up to m…

Excellent reply, Ben.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by wyck »

smacktoward wrote: post #145
dotBen wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The (strong) implication being that any WordPress configuration will perform better on WPEngine than on an alternative hosting platform." No, there's no inference or implication that any (ie regardless of how its built) WordPress configuration will scale on WP Engine. As I wrote in my prior comment, scalability is a partnership between infrastructure and code. That's the case irregardless of framework and PaaS provi…

Well, it's your business, and advice on the Internet is worth as much as you paid for it. So don't worry, I don't take it personally if you disagree. That being said... No, there's no inference or implication that any WordPress configuration will scale on WP Engine. I would humbly suggest that your entire Web site is a refutation of this assertion. Even moving beyond the copy on the home page to the fine-print "Commo…

This is silly, infinite scaling doesn't mean "I can do whatever I want and it better work".

Use some common sense.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by wyck »

Why did this get so much traction on hackernews?

This was posted on Reddit and killed with one comment the tl;dr of it : The client was incompetent and irresponsible and likes to blame people when things go wrong.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by wyck »

papsosouid wrote: post #131
csomar wrote: post #74

As a seasoned WordPress developer and entrepreneur, the OP is making wrong assumptions. If I was the WPEngine owner, I won't be bothered by seeing him go. WPEngine provides WordPress hosting services. They are professional and they do it for $250/month (which plainly means that their target audience is professional bloggers). For $250/month, they don't provide consultancy service as why your particular setup couldn't…

>As a seasoned WordPress developer You realize that puts your credibility in the negatives right? Wordpress is infamous for being one of the worst pieces of software ever created. The fact that your software is terrible does not mean a company whose sole purpose is to be experts at making that terrible software run is doing good by failing to make it run.

Open mouth insert foot.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by STRML »

ohashi wrote: post #128
alexandros wrote: post #4

For all who are thinking about moving to WPEngine: Your staging server does not use WPE's caching technology, which your production server will use. WPE will not give you details on how their secret-sauce caching works. This means that things that work on staging will break on production. WPE also refuse to turn off their caching on production, but also refuse to turn ON their caching on your staging server. This mea…

I was helping a friend debug something on WPEngine. We learned that the caching doesn't allow you to set cookies it would seem (from PHP). Had to do it all using JS instead. I thought I was going crazy trying to debug the code when it was definitely an issue with the way they cache. Not saying it was right or wrong, it just wasn't a fun experience thinking I was going crazy. And hopefully if anyone else is trying SET…

That was my issue, and yes, it absolutely is one of the many reasons why staging instances should have a caching on/off switch that mirrors production. It is absolutely 100% feasible that WPEngine's caching will break your site, and you need to know this before you push to production.

Don't get me wrong, as a contractor to a company that uses WPEngine, we have had a great experience with it - but e.g. in the case of setcookie() being completely useless for unauthenticated users, some documentation / warnings / big red flags would be nice.

In my case I was trying to build a simple site selector for unauthed users that would forward them to their selected site every time they hit the main domain. Nothing exotic by a long shot.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by STRML »

hluska wrote: post #195
jacques_chester wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multisite has been part of the base Wordpress install since 3.0.

Just curious, why do some pages sort 189k db rows?

That could very likely be the "Recent Comments" feature, which is incredibly inefficient.

Re: My experience with WPEngine

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Post by STRML »

cooperadymas wrote: post #155

May as well throw in my own experience with WPEngine... We run a relatively small member site ( Overall, their support team tried to be helpful. They weren't always responsive (sometimes we wouldn't get a response for a day, or we would be waiting on hold for a long time), and we ran into the problem of different support people telling us different things about how their system was setup. Eventually one of the co-fou…

Which membership plugin was this? I am on WPEngine running WP-Members, crossing my fingers.
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